Tradewin (not to be confused with...)

[troyresearch]

... this same board.

Yet another clickthru advertiser on ADVFN and in a startlingly similar mode of marketing to our good friends at Goldline, there's no pricing info on the website though a bot does send it back on auto-reply:

We have tried to answer some of the most frequently asked questions below. Obviously it is not a definitive list, and if you have any questions that are not covered please do not hesitate to contact Neil on [email protected] or 020 xxx xxxx.



What is it?



Originally designed on behalf of a full time trader, who has made trading his business for the past 20 years; TradeWin is his personal trading software, the exact same strategy that he employs to make his living.



The software is now the choice trading tool used by savvy investors and traders throughout the world, and is probably the most powerful of its kind.



Scanning hundreds of equities within the FTSE & DOW, the software, in real time performs its own analysis, to determine critical trading levels which are then revealed as alerts on the software.



In one set of simple trading instructions the trades are relayed to the trader, and as you will have seen from the record on our website these levels have produced truly outstanding returns.



Designed to suit both new and established traders, TradeWin offers YOU the chance to join our member’s, and start making a regular Tax-Free income from trading the markets.



Is it easy to use and how much time?



The software and strategy, really is very simple to use, and only takes a few minutes of your time each day, Monday to Friday.



Firstly, our members decide whether they wish to day trade or trade on an end of day basis. The software has live charting for day trading, although over 90% of our members choose to use the system on an end of day basis as the timing fits in to their lifestyle with ease. All of the illustrations on our website represent end of day trading.



For the experienced and those who want more from the strategy, you can start day trading immediately and we offer full training to help you make the most of the strategy.



Do I have to read charts or make complex calculations?



No, the software does everything for you, nothing is left to chance! In real-time software automatically and continually performs analysis of the market; when a critical trading level is reached, an entry signal is generated as an alert in the software for you to trade. Thereafter, as your trade develops TradeWin completely manages your position, altering stop-loss levels, placing limit orders & objectives to make sure all members know how to manage the trade (which is equally important as the opening signal).



Can anyone start out with TradeWin?



Yes, but as the owners of TradeWin use the software to make their living trading the number of members that they can sensibly support is limited, and therefore the membership number has been strictly capped.



We, as a company, want our members to find trading an enjoyable and profitable process. Therefore, to provide the best possible support facility, members are given direct access to our traders.





Do I need to have previous experience of trading?


Prior market knowledge is not required. The software that you trade the strategy with, provides all of the analysis that you need. As mentioned before when you join our membership you’re a member not a client. We are there with you every step of the way to ensure that you fully understand how to use the system before starting to trade.



How do I place the trades?



Our preferred method of trading is via spread betting, although you can trade futures, CFD’s and any other financial instrument just as effectively.



Spread betting is a very simple concept that is often mistaken for being complicated. People who are unfamiliar with spread betting are recommended to seek independent advice.



The TradeWin strategy comes with a detailed manual to guide you through any initial queries, and on an ongoing basis provides all of the information that you need to implement the strategy sucessfully.



Why sell it?



In a market where the amount of participants has no bearing on the success of the strategy, there is absolutely no reason not to get others involved! It allows us to develop and invest in future enhancements of the strategy.

Making our system available to others does not preclude us from making money and nor does it affect the profits of our traders…If it did, then it wouldn’t be available!



How are the fees structured?



There is an initial one-off membership fee of £3,995 including VAT . This is the complete package, consisting of the software, trading manual, 26 weeks data and full support to ensure that you start trading as intended.



You will soon realise that TradeWin membership fees will be very small compared to the profits that you make.



Thereafter, the only ongoing cost is for the data which is charged at £250 per 26 weeks.



What else do I need to get started?



You will need a small fund, an amount of money that you are prepared to use for your trades. Most people start with between £1,000 and £3,000. How to administer this fund and the way we manage our money is discussed in detail in the trading manual.



How much can I make?



How much, is purely down to the size of your stake.



The software has generated incredible returns and as you can see from the website our trades are extremely accurate.



Yearly returns can vary. Stock market trends, to some extent influences the price action of the lager company share prices, and although our software pin points specific situations with low risk trading opportunities, what must be remembered, share price movement is not an exact science.



In the long term the markets will always trend and therefore we will always be able to make money from them, just how much depends on how they trend!



Take a look back through our record of trades to see how much can be made.





Do you have demonstrations?


Why not come and see the software, here at our office. We can go through everything that you need to know about the strategy, show you our trades and help you get a feel for how it all works.



Demonstrations are completely free, and without obligation, in a relaxed and informal environment. Neil will spend around an hour or so showing you how everything works and answer any questions that you have.



How do I find out more?



Any information that we have not covered can be answered by our membership manager Neil, either by phone or email. He is contactable Monday to Friday, 0900-1700.



Tel: 020 xxx xxxx

Email: [email protected]



Thank you for taking the time to find out more about TradeWin. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

Opinions?

 

[Euro_d]

I got several email from these guys,
They earlier sent me sample trade (or actuals, but who can tell?) where they placed large spreadbets on various stocks that seemed to perform.
Well, how much?
To quote from their last email:

So be proactive and stop stalling... The offer price of £2,950 will only be available to 10 people, and only on orders received before Friday, 17th February. This is the first and last time that we will be able to make such an offer, due to the ominous rise in price. Therefore, act quickly, as the places will be filled very soon.

I agree, its another Goldline clone.

IMHO invest your 3 grand and learn trading!
Dave

 

[bud887]

How do these people get away with miss leading traders if thats what they are doing, as they quote all trades on there website, Tradewin.co.uk I am new to trading and all I can assume is that I am very Ni eve.
Going on what other traders think of them....

 

[cotton]

has anyone become a member?
as I am on my way to there office to find out how this works.

has anyone heard of any regrets.

 

[cotton]

I have now been to a meeting at Tradewin, (free of charge)
listen to what was said , shown and used the softwear.
If I say to much at this time I will be accused of working for them.

What I will say is it cost nothing......... to look, listen and use during the meeting.

Then go home and test the info (trades) you gained at the meeting.
(to do this you do need to have knowlege of charting)
Then come back to the forum and give your oppinion.
P.S. If you are new to trading you may need help with this( testing the info).

I am now following up on the info (trades) I recieved.
Then I will decide for myself if the softwear is right for me.
Always remember no one or any softwear can predict the future.........,
as any kind of trader we look for an edge.

As much as we look for help, value other peoples oppinions,
do your own research...... what might be suitable for them
may not be suitable for you.

 

[iq200]

I noticed that Tradewin was run by [email protected]. This isnt the trade2win Neil is it ?

 

[cotton]

I noticed that Tradewin was run by [email protected]. This isnt the trade2win Neil is it ?

As I have not met either, I do not know the answer to the question!

What I can tell you, I am now running the software.

Last ten trades by software .

The last ten trades made by me.

The last ten trades made by my Broker.

The software is winning with more of its orders being correct.

it is early days, but my broker has got to get his finger out, Im not paying him to come last.

Sorry I can not help, ask Neil from Trade2Win, Im sure he will tell you.

 

[cotton]

Update on the use of the Tradewin software.

Nothing can predict the future, I dont think so anyway!

I have found (up till now) it has been an asset to my way of trading.

A couple of times I have disagreed with the software, (I got it wrong)

Twice I was not at the computer to enter the trade, at the price quoted.

If you do a 9-5 job I would think long and hard about whether this is right for you,

Once it got the trade wrong, I made money though as I miss the trade to go long
saw the sell signal, shorted walked away with a profit by accident.

It is a personal thing, what suits me may not suit you.

What I will say no body told me any untruths, the software dose exactly what I was told. The software is not cheap.

Sorry I am not jumping up and down, but I do not want to miss led you.

Do your own research, test , see what you think, The trades on there web site are there to be seen,
They have not been doctored.

 

[Tray_Dar]

Has anyone had any further experiences with this software and was the outcome? Their results are certainly impressive but I'm too long in the tooth to believe everything I read. How easy is it to trade the setups and was it worth the investment?

 

[cotton]

Hi Tray,

The soft ware is still with me, Plays a part in my investments, mainly (Short term) CFD'S

Although the broker still emails me trades dayley he no longer has control of the account he ran for me.

I no longer have to look at short term trading as much as I did. As the soft ware takes care of that.

I trade alot, (I would not call myself a day trader).

If you look at the history, the soft ware only gives a trade now and then, not only that it tells you when to close, s/l, take profit, move a position.

Although it trades less than I do, its percentage of getting it correct is better than mine.

If you are in any doubt do not buy.

YOU MUST DO YOUR OWN REASERCH.

 

[Tray_Dar]

Thanks for your response. I have sent you a private message.

 

[captain kid]

I too use the software and bought it last October (05). Three things that might help most queries is:

The system is really easy to use and not being a computer expert this was one of my worries! The prices that they quote for the trades are achievable and can be beaten particularly if you use the sms service with the software.

The trade results that they show in their results table are exactly the same as I have traded over the past 13 months and I'm really happy I bought it. Hope this helps.

 

[Tray_Dar]

Is it me or do their 2006 results seem quite poor? They are well below the normal 100% return and if you had started with £2,500 in Jan 2006 (10% of their pot) staking 5% on each trade, would you have even made back the price of the software?

 

[oohayftse]

The bank for all the trades is capped at 25k. So far Tradewin made 33k this year on a 25k bank, over the usual 100%.

I still increase my trades size as the bank rises and therefore the profits I make are compounded throughout the year and create an exponential return like they did in 2002. Their bank stakes the same on each trade now rather than increasing. So all-in-all the results are on par with previous years.

 

[che]

To those of you, very few, who've used the software please explain a bit more how it works. The web site is very vague, which is slighty worrying.


In your experience is it matching those claimed by the site.

I'd also like to know how you're using the software, Day Trading or EOD trading.

Thanks in anticipation or your responces, I'm trying to get into trading and finding the massive amount of conflicting information difficult to wade through.

 

[oohayftse]

As Cotton says, the best thing to do is call their office or go for a demostration of how it works to see how they trade or find out some more 'specifics' from the TradeWin users on these boards.

All i can say is that; what i have traded equals exactly the same results that they show on their website and it is exactly what i have achieved including the spread and all associated costs since i joined them.

Is it worth the cost? From the money that i have made, for me, yes it has been well justified and looking forward I am very happy I bought it. However, this is personal view and as mentioned before what suits some may not suit others so maybe look at it yourself and take one of their demonstration to decide for yourself.

 

[aspex]

This type of operation (and Goldline) are over greedy.
They would get a greater number of punters by having a ZERO entry fee and a weekly or monthly subscription.
Their problem is that they are not confident that their system(?) will be capable of holding on to the customer.
Someone should get them to explain why they are unwilling to do this.

 

[cotton]

I don't like it when some thing is said by a person, who has not found out for them self
how it works......
The software is a guide, it is down to you whether you trade, or when you trade.
Personaly 7 out of 10 times I will try to get a better opening/closeing price than is advertised.
as the tradeing condition for that particular trade in my eyes could be improved.
Members (Tradewin) over Chrismas I read my manuel again, I was amazed how much I'd forgot
or did not take in the first time I read it. have a nice day in these difficult tradeing times.

cheers

 

[captain kid]

My results for tradewin have still been very, very good and continue to get the prices they display on their site. I caught a massive move in Next that the system closed out in addition to those they display on their site. From 1771 (signalled by tradewin at 1772) to 1945, this was on top of all the other winning trades I've had with them.

If they asked me to pay/buy again I would. I can only comment on what I see but from tradewins perspective, its not that they're greedy moreover the system works and makes money so why not charge accordingly for it? Their membership is closing at 500 people,so selling it has got to be worth their while.

The money that I'm making fully justifies the membership fee. My main concern is that tradewin is now forming a really significant part of my income the question is how can I ensure that I can continue to use the system for the long term if anything was to happen to the company.

You will notice that the only people who are detrimental to tradewin are those that haven't used it, surely that speaks volumes in itself.

 

[fxtraderlou]

I bought into the Trade win system just before christmas and I have found it very easy to use and it fits easily into my working day. I am slightly behind in profit at the moment but I am not unduly worried as I am only a few weeks in and this system is all about slowly does it which has been my big mistake when trading forex on my own system. I am also slightly concerned that at some point the company may stop trading and I will no longer receive my signal but I guess as long as I have recouped my capital outlay by that time then I can only be in a positive position. I think if they system is successful then of course its worth the money. I am sure I would do the same with my forex system (if I ever get control of it that is!) I think that the other systems on offer in this range ie Goldmine and Intelli Trend 250 are probably all quite similar in their own way. I really believe that If you have good technical analysis then you will out ahead over time.