Trade Size, Stops and Volatility....

ForceBeWithYou said:
Example. Barclays
Been seeing people for the last 8 year's, say as you do now. And u still see investors still holding since 2007, averaging in, trying to buy hopeless value. (barc be 70p within 18 months).
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Investors earn the dividends. The price fluctuation is irrelevant. Buffet would have told you: the market is up in the long term and he's right because the market always go up - just go look at the charts.

Had you followed his advise and bought when you were 10. By 60 you would probably have been richer than buffet and it wouldn't have taken much work. Instead you play the casino, and do silly deal like buy high sell low.
 
Whaaaa. Price fluctuation irrelevant? Get Eg 3% yield, sp down 50% and it's irrelevant? Maybe, if you plan to retire at 210 years of age. But that's retail investor mentality I'm afraid. It's why the markets love you. They have to get profit from somewhere. But not me:). Best of luck chasing the div. Il short the day before, for 6 hours, to get via sp, what u pray for all year, and then some lol.

Everyone to their own. Let's have this chat again in 15 years. Youll be a different person. No more buying and believing books, articles, brokers and what's online by then. You'll be more savy. In the meantime, enjoy buying your highs with no stops. A few long years there then.


Buffet right, markets always go up? What happened To Afren and it's investors?
 
Re Buffet advise: I have followed my own. Thrashing his business. As I said, his ideas are prehistoric now. Hands tied a bit I guess. Given fund size.
 
ForceBeWithYou said:
What happened To Afren and it's investors?
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Bankrupt stock goes bankrupt. This is why people shouldn't buy something because it looks cheap at 10p.

Not convinced you will last 15 years. I see signs of the market taking a dump in the near term. So all the nice deals you offer will be fully subscribed soon enough.

I am no friend of buffet, you can say anything you like about him, makes no difference to me. One fact you can't dismiss is he has more money than you, and no amount of name calling will change that.
 
For beginners feeling smug about their 5% stops, in a market dump the stops won't be honoured. I'd suggest look at your sizes before you are forced to change your residence to under a bridge somewhere.
 
I short more markets than I buy. Hope the market collapses. Sure, Afren hit problems. Thing is, you'd have bought some 'low' thinking value. It's your mantra. Buy the low. Lol.

It's not name calling. It's calling a spade a slade. I saw him get some hard lessons with retsil investors in tesco and a few others. Investments, that were obvious shorts to traders.

New world order.
 
Now, if i bought an afren price that was, 'low' at the time, my stop saved me, going into administration with afren. Haha.
 
ForceBeWithYou said:
I short more markets than I buy. Hope the market collapses. Sure, Afren hit problems. Thing is, you'd have bought some 'low' thinking value. It's your mantra. Buy the low. Lol.

It's not name calling. It's calling a spade a slade. I saw him get some hard lessons with retsil investors in tesco and a few others. Investments, that were obvious shorts to traders.

New world order.
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I don't remember saying buying the lows. I said people buy high and sell low. I never said I was doing anything.

I always assumed buffet buying into tesco was just a story to attract the retail joes. Does buffet really have shares in teso ? If there are official documents showing it then I will have to go buy some tesco.

I have no doubt the number of markets you short is so many that they are coming out of your ears. But why mess with the markets ? The money you make per post should be more than enough.

Tell me more about afren. The desperation they showed in attempting to wrestle the shares from the retail joe seemed a bit odd. They clearly see great value in it. From that, I reckon afren will miraculously revive after administration.
 
I'm sure your experienced enough, to go figure out what buffet, or his company invests in :). Not my place to teach you how to trade via my thoughts. Oh yes, heavy short and longs. Balanced, across the sectors, commodities, currencies, indices etc. No, pay in this game for teaching is rubbish. At best most weeks, 10G, and that's all day, Mon to Fri. That's ok when markets are affectively on hols. Not moving much. Not much good otherwise.
 
Many brokers. Not that it needs to be so. Just my way. They are all the same anyway. Rubbish. But got yo ha e some
 
ForceBeWithYou said:
Not my place to teach you how to trade via my thoughts.
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I don't remember asking anyone to teach me how to trade. Since you don't trade or have any shares, I would be silly to learn from you.

Since you kept banging on about buffet and tesco I assumed you know something. Since you don't then I can safely assume buffet is not in tesco. No use buying in if buffet is not in it.
 
U can assume anything. My ego doesnt require massage. Hence, nothing to prove in answers.

But Yes. You can even assume that night is day. If it's correct in your head, well done.
 
One thing I do know is the retail mind. I think it is safe to more than assume. Your in the red. A long time. And it's also more than safe to assume. You will keep buying more. Sometimes though, to get yourself out of a hole, you should start, by stop digging. Lol
 
Well, let's look at it another way. Why don't you research h about buffet in tesco shares. Only take two seconds. Then you tell me (with research rather than assumption, or somebody else's word-mine), is he?
 
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