TS- you may be right about the slope change. However, I prefer to ignore the "noise" in trends, which you haven't done. It's not a case of which is right, or which is wrong. It's a case of two valid alternatives. Time will tell. Also, you rightly pointed out that in a strong trending day, The ND tops may not be the actual top, as today. That's not a good enough excuse to ignore the rules, though.... just in case. As for the apparent bottoms, ignore the temptation to go long unless you can see confirmation by way of volume divergence on ES. That's usually a pretty good qualifier. Strange that you tend to get 3 lower peaks on the vol at the right point. Don't know how/why that works, but it does. :cheesy: