This is labour government

[Trader333]

....And Micheal Howard did run his election on 'immigration' platform and did lose....

Personally, I don't remember him using that as the main policy but in my view he didn't lose because of it. People win and lose elections on one thing only and that is how people feel economically. They couldn't care less about almost anything else such as wars in Iraq etc.

This time around most of the country feel much worse off than they did at the last election and that is enough to change the government. People will blame this government regardless of whether they are fully at fault or not. The effects of the recession continue long after it "supposedly ends" and redundancy is a key but lagging indicator. Redundancies will continue and unemployment will go on rising right up to the election which cannot be any later than June 2010. Most of those losing jobs are white collar middle class people, do you really think they will say ok Mr Brown give us more of what we have had since you took over as PM ?

I wouldn't take a bet on it that is for sure and in my view the Tories will win by a landslide.


Paul

 

[white4burgundy]

THIS IS LABOUR GOVERNMENT

REST OF THE WORLD VERSION:

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building and improving his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

THE END

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LABOUR GOVERNMENT THE UK VERSION

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

A social worker finds the shivering grasshopper, calls a press conference and demands to know why the squirrel should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like the grasshopper, are cold and starving.

The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of the squirrel in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.

The British press inform people that they should be ashamed that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so, while others have plenty.

The Labour Party, Greenpeace, Animal Rights and The Grasshopper Council of GB demonstrate in front of the squirrel's house. The BBC, interrupting a cultural festival special from Notting Hill with breaking news, broadcasts a multi-cultural choir singing 'We shall overcome'.

Ken Livingstone rants in an interview with Trevor McDonald that the squirrel got rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the squirrel to make him pay his 'fair share' and increases the charge for squirrels to enter inner London .

In response to pressure from the media, the Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper anti Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

The squirrel's taxes are reassessed. He is taken to court and fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as builders for the work he was doing on his home and an additional fine for contempt when he told the court the grasshopper did not want to work. The grasshopper is provided with a council house, financial aid to furnish it and an account with a local taxi firm to ensure he can be socially mobile. The squirrel's food is seized and re distributed to the more needy members of society, in this case the grasshopper.

Without enough money to buy more food, to pay the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, the squirrel has to downsize and start building a new home. The local authority takes over his old home and utilises it as a temporary home for asylum seeking cats who had hijacked a plane to get to Britain as they had to share their country of origin with mice. On arrival they tried to blow up the airport because of Britain 's apparent love of dogs.

The cats had been arrested for the international offence of hijacking and attempted bombing but were immediately released because the police fed them pilchards instead of salmon whilst in custody. Initial moves to return them to their own country were abandoned, because it was feared they would face death by the mice. The cats devise and start a scam to obtain money from people's credit cards.

A Panorama special shows the grasshopper finishing up the last of the squirrel's food, though spring is still months away, while the council house he is in, crumbles around him because he hasn't bothered to maintain the house. He is shown to be taking drugs. Inadequate government funding is blamed for the grasshoppers' drug 'illness'.

The cats seek recompense in the British courts for their treatment since arrival in UK .

The grasshopper gets arrested for stabbing an old dog during a burglary to get money for his drugs habit. He is imprisoned but released immediately because he has been in custody for a few weeks. He is placed in the care of the probation service to monitor and supervise him.. Within a few weeks he has killed a guinea pig in a botched robbery.

A commission of enquiry, that will eventually cost £10,000,000 and state the obvious, is set up. Additional money is put into funding a drug rehabilitation scheme for
grasshoppers and legal aid for lawyers representing asylum seekers is increased. The government praises the asylum-seeking cats for enriching Britain 's multicultural diversity, and dogs are criticised by the government for failing to befriend the cats.

The grasshopper dies of a drug overdose. The usual sections of the press blame it on the obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity and his traumatic experience of prison. They call for the resignation of a government minister.

The cats are paid a million pounds each because their rights were infringed when the government failed to inform them there were mice in the United Kingdom .

The squirrel, the dogs and the victims of the hijacking, the bombing, the burglaries and robberies have to pay an additional percentage on their credit cards to cover losses. Their taxes are increased to pay for law and order, and they are told that they will have to work beyond 65 because of a shortfall in government funds.

THE END

Great analogy! it's about covering up the inadequacies of the government. the burdens are passed on to the working mass of people, because the government only executes laws, only implements policies, only governs and does not do the dirty job, does not do the hand works, does not feel hungry, does not thirst, does not get held-up.

 

[windsurfing_stew]

As a grand finale, I think they should officially shorten the country's name from 'Great Britain' to just 'Britain' as a reminder of the state that they have left things in.

 

[Pat494]

Surely it was no coincidence that :-

1.Who was in power in the Great Depression ?
2. Who was in power in the 70s when Britain had to ask the IMF for funds ?
3. Who is in power before and during this complete economic bollax ?

Have you guessed ?

Oh alright I'll tell you

Bloody Labour - that's who

All 300+ of them could'nt manage a street corner shop let alone a country

All 300+ shoulda been down the job centre applying for manual jobs !! The idiots

 

[zambuck]

Surely it was no coincidence that :-

1.Who was in power in the Great Depression ?
2. Who was in power in the 70s when Britain had to ask the IMF for funds ?
3. Who is in power before and during this complete economic bollax ?

Have you guessed ?

Oh alright I'll tell you

Bloody Labour - that's who

All 300+ of them could'nt manage a street corner shop let alone a country

All 300+ shoulda been down the job centre applying for manual jobs !! The idiots

......Don't forget.....Lawson's playing with Interest Rates around election for Tory gains......Lamont's lament and Major's ERM adventure......Poll Tax fiasco......Miners strike which was condemned by Earl Stockton....

Tories had their moments too......!

 

[zambuck]

As a grand finale, I think they should officially shorten the country's name from 'Great Britain' to just 'Britain' as a reminder of the state that they have left things in.

Forget about Britain....we have been referred to as just 'Brits' for a long time...!

 

[zambuck]

Personally, I don't remember him using that as the main policy but in my view he didn't lose because of it.

I wouldn't take a bet on it that is for sure and in my view the Tories will win by a landslide.

Paul

Of course he will not run it on immigration only....it is obvious...but his main plank was that...

Tories may win on a landslide on general public assumption that it was them who were responsible for this mess....In fact the mess is entirely of deregulated Banks playing financial roulette....But then when 'Daily Bile' is constantly spewing incorrect **** everyday....it is typical that easily led people will believe anything and blame the party in power...!

 

[zambuck]

....Subject of immigration...I bet election is looming soon...!...We will not be swamped...But then we wil do nothing about immigration afterwards either...!

 

[Trader333]

it is typical that easily led people will believe anything and blame the party in power

The same applies to any government, after all everyone was easily led to put Labour in power by the exact same means as you are now questioning.


Paul

 

[zambuck]

No, at that time it was different....Tories HAD screwed up the ERM, Poll Tax and all other issues....That economy failure was directly connected to ERM debacle and GBP being screwed to the hilt by Soros....It was a catastrophic failure directly attributed to the Government of the Day....

You did not need brain washing...It was obvious....

But now there are stories after stories in Daily Bile that are just nothing but brainwashing...and alarmist....Look at China and India...they are forging ahead on a massive scale....and what is GB reduced to..?...Talking about Calais and immigrants..!

 

[Splitlink]

No, at that time it was different....Tories HAD screwed up the ERM, Poll Tax and all other issues....That economy failure was directly connected to ERM debacle and GBP being screwed to the hilt by Soros....It was a catastrophic failure directly attributed to the Government of the Day....

You did not need brain washing...It was obvious....

But now there are stories after stories in Daily Bile that are just nothing but brainwashing...and alarmist....Look at China and India...they are forging ahead on a massive scale....and what is GB reduced to..?...Talking about Calais and immigrants..!

All governments screw up. That is why the opposition gets in at the next election. That does not excuse the populace for its lack of interest in how the country is run. Everything is fine until the crunch. We are, all, too immersed in our own affairs to take an interest in issues of national importance. If that is not the case, how is it that a very small porcentage of the population turns out to vote?

Take, for instance, the promise of a referendum, by both parties, on the Lisbon Treaty.

There is not going to be one. I happen to be a pro-European, but that is beside the point. What will the British do about it?

Nothing. They will go into Europe just like that. The problem, here, as I see it, is that the opposition stirs the country up and then does nothing. The result? Britain has been dithering and annoying everyone else for decades on its lack of direction.

Go into Iraq? At once! Just because the Bush administration wanted to, Blair put his hand up then, because the UN wanted us in Afghanistan, in we go. So it is and, unless we take more interest in our politics, so it will always be.

 

[zambuck]

My comments in blue italics...

You are right about the comments, but until the electorate is intelligent and aware enough, they will be easily led...!

All governments screw up. That is why the opposition gets in at the next election. That does not excuse the populace for its lack of interest in how the country is run. Everything is fine until the crunch. We are, all, too immersed in our own affairs to take an interest in issues of national importance. If that is not the case, how is it that a very small porcentage of the population turns out to vote?
Because people are NOT given real issues that matter by the Daily Thrash....Instead of intelligent debate and discussion on real issues that matter to their daily life, only thing you get in Daily Thrash is story of groaning Gerta whole lovemaking keeps entire Guildford awake..!

Take, for instance, the promise of a referendum, by both parties, on the Lisbon Treaty.

There is not going to be one. I happen to be a pro-European, but that is beside the point. What will the British do about it?

Nothing. They will go into Europe just like that. The problem, here, as I see it, is that the opposition stirs the country up and then does nothing. The result? Britain has been dithering and annoying everyone else for decades on its lack of direction.

Referendum was promised by everyone and nothing was done about it....But the real issue that matters about Europe is not discussed at all....We know more about Disneyland and a door mouse rather than our Europenan partners...We want to do business with them,,,we want to have the loudest voice in it, but we don't want to committ on same and equal scale...
UK either agrees to go into Europe totally, as a joint partner, following common Legislation, which all others have committed to do - or get out...But UK won't....because the daily 'bread' comes from Europe..!

Go into Iraq? At once! Just because the Bush administration wanted to, Blair put his hand up then, because the UN wanted us in Afghanistan, in we go. So it is and, unless we take more interest in our politics, so it will always be.

I was against the Iraq and Afghanistan, and that war was without UN Mandate and illegal war, which has shamed UK's standing in the world...It was a classic case of UK Lions following a US Orangutan.....

 

[Splitlink]

Hi Zambuck,

I admit to being in favour of Iraq, it would be hypocritical of me to say otherwise. Nevertheless, I did say that we should not have gone in with so much public opinion against it. How is it, though, that the UK can go into a war against the wishes of so many?

We are supposed to be a democracy and although the government must have power to make quick decisions surely it must have its ear close enough to the ground to know what the country wants and act accordingly?

 

[Mr. Charts]

I think Iraqi and Afghan forces should invade the UK to effect regime change and bring democracy to our country. The whole world knows the extreme corruption of our political class, their brazen theft of the riches of the nation and their arrogance in believing they are justified in helping themselves to state funds arising from taxing the population.
The democratically elected governments of al-Maliki and Karzai are appalled that even though they have some degree of unfairness in their own elections, the people of the UK have to suffer oppression by a Prime MInister who has not received any democratic mandate whatsoever and refuses to allow an election despite the people's wishes.
Units of the Iraqi and Afghan air forces will bomb certain areas of Dewsbury, Leeds, Bradford, Birmingham and Leicester which are being used to house and train terrorist elements. They sincerely regret any necessary and inevitable collateral damage to surrounding civilian areas but are confident the peace loving peoples of the UK will understand that such loss of life is unavoidable and worthwhile to secure the UK for democracy.
They have advised that all wedding parties should be postponed to reduce unnecessary bloodshed.
We in the UK should appreciate the loss of blood and treasure to the democratically elected governments of our two great allies Iraq and Afghanistan as their soldiers fight in inhospitable conditions to free us from the tyranny of an unelected leader and the terrorists he claims to be unable to control.
Independent observers have noted vast numbers of the UK populace are wearing red poppies to signify their covert support for the forces of liberation who have left their opium growing homes in far off lands to come to the UK to liberate us from oppression.
The wicked lies that Muslim forces are invading as some sort clash of civilisations and as a return of Muslim armies to Europe after five centuries is clearly nonsense, as are the allegations they are just after our coal, oil and Marmite supplies.
Neither will they impose Islam on the UK population, although the "temporary" imposition of Sharia Law to maintain law and order might be needed. Addtional benefits will include no more drunken rampages in our towns since alcohol will be banned and women will be re-allocated, as they themselves fervently pray for, to domestic and sexual duties. They will also save vast sums of money not having to buy clothes or make up as they will be completely covered. The only female face to be allowed on stamps and coins will be the Mother of the Nation, Cheryl Cole.
Most importantly of all, women will not be allowed to drive.

 

[montmorencyt2w]

That last bit should appeal to the Top Gear boys.

 

[dick_dastardly]

Most importantly of all, women will not be allowed to drive.

Except when they are acting as designated driver, doing the shopping or taking the kids to school.

dd

 

[Splitlink]

I think Iraqi and Afghan forces should invade the UK to effect regime change and bring democracy to our country. The whole world knows the extreme corruption of our political class, their brazen theft of the riches of the nation and their arrogance in believing they are justified in helping themselves to state funds arising from taxing the population.
The democratically elected governments of al-Maliki and Karzai are appalled that even though they have some degree of unfairness in their own elections, the people of the UK have to suffer oppression by a Prime MInister who has not received any democratic mandate whatsoever and refuses to allow an election despite the people's wishes.
Units of the Iraqi and Afghan air forces will bomb certain areas of Dewsbury, Leeds, Bradford, Birmingham and Leicester which are being used to house and train terrorist elements. They sincerely regret any necessary and inevitable collateral damage to surrounding civilian areas but are confident the peace loving peoples of the UK will understand that such loss of life is unavoidable and worthwhile to secure the UK for democracy.
They have advised that all wedding parties should be postponed to reduce unnecessary bloodshed.
We in the UK should appreciate the loss of blood and treasure to the democratically elected governments of our two great allies Iraq and Afghanistan as their soldiers fight in inhospitable conditions to free us from the tyranny of an unelected leader and the terrorists he claims to be unable to control.
Independent observers have noted vast numbers of the UK populace are wearing red poppies to signify their covert support for the forces of liberation who have left their opium growing homes in far off lands to come to the UK to liberate us from oppression.
The wicked lies that Muslim forces are invading as some sort clash of civilisations and as a return of Muslim armies to Europe after five centuries is clearly nonsense, as are the allegations they are just after our coal, oil and Marmite supplies.
Neither will they impose Islam on the UK population, although the "temporary" imposition of Sharia Law to maintain law and order might be needed. Addtional benefits will include no more drunken rampages in our towns since alcohol will be banned and women will be re-allocated, as they themselves fervently pray for, to domestic and sexual duties. They will also save vast sums of money not having to buy clothes or make up as they will be completely covered. The only female face to be allowed on stamps and coins will be the Mother of the Nation, Cheryl Cole.
Most importantly of all, women will not be allowed to drive.

The trouble with us is that we are politically naive. We believe that all our leaders are as
democratic as us. If we thought about that last sentence, we'd worry about that, for a start. We are all looking after our own interests most of the time and, when we do look at other people's it is because we are alright, Jack.

Human nature is like that, political leaders have ulimate power, so are ultimately undemocratic. Socialist leadership is based on "Don't do as I do, do as I tell you". As for the Tories, they have their noses in the trough all the time and are, certainly, not interested in rocking any boat.

 

[Trader333]

That economy failure was directly connected to ERM debacle and GBP being screwed to the hilt by Soros

Sorry what are you comparing here ? The ERM was a mess up but it did not result in a massive increase in unemployment with the UK now at the highest level of public spending in the entire G20 nations at 56% of GDP with the highest level of borrowing in history that will still need paying off in 30 years from now by our yet to be born Grandchildren.

Because people are NOT given real issues that matter by the Daily Thrash....Instead of intelligent debate and discussion on real issues that matter to their daily life, only thing you get in Daily Thrash is story of groaning Gerta whole lovemaking keeps entire Guildford awake..!

I know very few people who bother to read newspapers any more and the number that do nationally is declining. You talk about people being easily led into voting out this government, well I disagree. Compared to 2005 the number of people I know who have lost their job and cannot get any meaningful work is very high. These are skilled people from all over the UK including Masters degree qualified engineers, commercial airline pilots and other highly skilled people. Are you really saying that they do not have real issues and should vote this government back in for another 5 years of exactly the same ?

UK either agrees to go into Europe totally, as a joint partner, following common Legislation, which all others have committed to do - or get out...But UK won't....because the daily 'bread' comes from Europe..!

I agree but if you are promised a referendum then it should have been given and it wasn't and that is enough for me to not even look at Labour for the next election with their "You will do as you are told" school master approach to the electorate.


Paul

 

[Splitlink]

Yes but, Paul, the Conservatives are not going to, either. You mark my words.

However, moan as much as we like, to change the system is a mindboggling task. We are going to do as we are told, at least, in the forseeable future unless we get a higher porcentage voting at the elections.

 

[counter_violent]

We are going to do as we are told, at least, in the forseeable future unless we get a higher porcentage voting at the elections.

I'm not...I never do as i'm told...