The next US President?

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LOL...I nearly fell over laughing at this. If ever there was a natural successor to Bush it's got to be this guy. So the weak dollar and raging inflation on anything denominated in dollars is causing you huge problems so what do you do....make it cheaper to consume ,prop up that demand and funnel even more dollars back to the Mid east...if it wasn't so outrageously funny it would be terrible ,but what can I say ,if the US elect a peanut like this then they truly deserve everything they get.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how both the US and UK end up with impossible choices.
Foot-in-mouth Obama, manipulative liar Clinton, gung-ho oven chip McCain.
Stalinist Brown, elitist Tory twit, calamity cleggover.
Richard
 
Better than that original peanut farmer who made President.
Richard

Ha,
but it was that 'peanut' who elected Volker to the Fed ! and without the US getting Volkerised it's arguable that they might have ended up with an economy more akin to Haiti ;)
 
Remember that fertilisation programme in the US in the 70s. A woman with enough dollars ( well it is America ) could get herself fertilized by a Nobel prize winner , Olympic athlete, etc. They should be in their thirties and coming to fruition about now.
Probably forgot the integrity bit though and made a load of monsters ???
 
Serious Question

Is it just the more recent (last 25 years?) political offerings from the US and UK that have proven so 'popular' with the thinking classes (and those on t2w) or do we imagine previous generations found their politicos equally embarrassing?

If this is the case, it would be interesting to identify at what point in history (as precisely as one can) we stopped believing them to the degree we distrust them/laugh at them today.

Discounting (I’m not, but let’s for now) any centuries old conspiracy groups or even more relatively recent clandestine groups such as Bilderberg and superficially publicly mandated but significantly more covert in utlimate aims League of Nations or the Franco-German Axis that Jimmy Goldsmith fought so hard to bring to the masses attention (he really should have bought some major media clout), where did it all go sour?

My own very rough guess is around the 1930s. A little after WW1 and in the lead up to WW2.

Of course, they may be tons of evidence that our leaders have disappointed us throughout recorded history. I just don’t find it so.

Any takers?
 
Is it just the more recent (last 25 years?) political offerings from the US and UK that have proven so 'popular' with the thinking classes (and those on t2w) or do we imagine previous generations found their politicos equally embarrassing?

I think it was the History Ch. that did a full series on all the US presidents. From what that indicated, there were plenty of presidents who were not well thought of in their time - or since. On most lists of best to worst, the current Bush doesn't even rank last, nor does anyone else in the last 25 years. We've definitely had some lemons.
 
Is it just the more recent (last 25 years?) political offerings from the US and UK that have proven so 'popular' with the thinking classes (and those on t2w) or do we imagine previous generations found their politicos equally embarrassing?

If this is the case, it would be interesting to identify at what point in history (as precisely as one can) we stopped believing them to the degree we distrust them/laugh at them today.

Discounting (I’m not, but let’s for now) any centuries old conspiracy groups or even more relatively recent clandestine groups such as Bilderberg and superficially publicly mandated but significantly more covert in utlimate aims League of Nations or the Franco-German Axis that Jimmy Goldsmith fought so hard to bring to the masses attention (he really should have bought some major media clout), where did it all go sour?

My own very rough guess is around the 1930s. A little after WW1 and in the lead up to WW2.

Of course, they may be tons of evidence that our leaders have disappointed us throughout recorded history. I just don’t find it so.

Any takers?

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Politicians, like fruit and vegetables, inevitably go bad, although its beyond me to know which one does it first.

while i believe europe led the US in understanding the above (we were a pretty naive people before WW2) our modern age of communications, capable of giving us 5 opinions of what someone says, before they even say it, is really where things changed -- prob starting in the early 70's as "adults" started to see what the "hippies" had meant by the demonstrations ---- took a bit longer, but the spread of cable tv, coupled with the literally hundreds of news reports, all trying to beat each other to the punch, and all "exposing" each others methods, is probably what happened. At one time, much could be "covered up", but now, with a journalist in every corner and a camera everywhere, only the "teflon couple" can cover up for long !

When Roosevelt was president, there was a "gentlemens" agreement not to photograph him so as to see the wheel chair he was in or suggest in any way he was incapable of walking --- train stations were built underground in nyc that allowed him to come to a hotel via private train, get off along with his car, and be transported to his suite in a private elevator, and the general public had no idea it was there, as the press remained silent !

Jimmy Carter did some wonderful things --- he had laws enacted that practically put all the small peanut farmers out of business in Georgia --- no fool he. Being president is really a temporary job, but being a peanut farmer is forever !

before ww2, america was pretty isolated and while we had our capitalist fingers in a few pies around the world, it didnt come close to what were doing now.

europe, having felt the ravages of ww1 and ww2 on home shores quite naturally were more vocal and studious of situations around them, but i believe the reall "change" occurred about the same time in europe, UK and the US and technology was a real part of it

btw, you do realize that all the people who are being mentioned are members of the council on foreign relations and the trilateral commission ??

aint it grand

mp
 
Half of nursery rhymes?
That's interesting. Folk myth would be the way to go, but I've always taken the view they've been sexual in nature. Mind you, I talk to strange people most of the time...

Got any examples.
 
Could be the internet is THE answer to people's representation. Think of it - a forum where everyone has a say and a vote !! Mind boggling
 
It's been downhill ever since they stopped declaring war and then getting on a horse to lead from the front. It's hard to respect people who cannot lead by example ,or perhaps I should say the example they set is bordering on the pathetic.
 
It should have been Ron Paul - a true Republican and a true US patriot - and seemingly a decent bloke also. Unfortunately due to mass media blackballing etc. that will not happen.
 
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Considering the legislation pushed through by the GOP it would not be a suprise to see a covenient terrorist attrocity occur before Nov on US soil , see martial law declared and Bush remain in office in order to allow his handlers to keep things on track. The thing which may allow the democratic process to continue is if they can ensure McCain will be the choice of the vote counters.
 
Considering the legislation pushed through by the GOP it would not be a suprise to see a covenient terrorist attrocity occur before Nov on US soil , see martial law declared and Bush remain in office in order to allow his handlers to keep things on track. The thing which may allow the democratic process to continue is if they can ensure McCain will be the choice of the vote counters.

Wouldn't surprise me if he declared himself Emperor/God as per Romans. Hey maybe thats why the Pope is in America ? LOL
 
Wouldn't surprise me if he declared himself Emperor/God as per Romans. Hey maybe thats why the Pope is in America ? LOL

That's made me think. I'm now wondering if Tony might be interested in the job. I gather he's free at the moment.
 
Good posts Bramble and TWI. NSD51 which GOP passed would actually stand with a Katrina type disaster or anything on foreign soil which threatens u.s. citizens etc. It gives the right to rule 'indefinitely', so yes Pat he would overnight become King or Emperor of the world's largest superpower.

Don't worry 0007, Blair was fixed with a six figure advisory role on Wall St as well as envoy
for the UN so he's in!!
 
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I believe McCain is from the same 'power stable' of Bush and was endorsed by Bush sr so who would bet against them getting their boy in?

Oh lordy not another Bush type. Junior has done his worst and very nearly bankrupted the West - only 8 months to go before we get rid of that idiot. At least McCain hasn't got that self satisfied grin of GWB but he doesn't seemed to have grasped the point that the Middle East doesn't want America charging around and around in their countries like drugged crazed elephants.
The trouble is that I'm not sure the other 2 have got that message either. Let's drop America before they drag Europe down with them. They seemed determined to commit suicide.
 
I think the foreign policy there is for a global government and globalisation. The problem is that everything's intertwined with mutual interests so we're in very deep. They scratch our back, we scratch theirs.

'A century of war - anglo american oil politics..' is a great book if you get a chance.
 
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