Latterly Wise
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Strange that you should use that handle. 10Tacle Studios as you know is one of the groups trading separetly out of Munich who's CEO is that of SOM. I visited their offices myself in 2008. I was also persuaded to invest in Maier & Partners and in IN-Motion AG, TV and music, again I believe another off-shoot of SOM, though I have little evidence. Again they have gone the same way as SOM.
Using lawyers is the fastest way of losing your money, so I avoid them like the plague.
Udo Schaar's e mail is linked to 140 current web domains so there's no doubt that this scam extends to other entities. I havnt looked into the ones you mention but your assumptions are probably correct.
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Latterly Wise
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The way to help each other is to get your facts straight and create an incident report. No lawyer will take any notice until you do. I have hundreds of e-mails, photos, and videos of meetings both in this country and abroad. I took videos and others took voice recordings at early meetings. I at least did this because I was suspicious, but by then I was in the net.
Dissolving SOM
Apparently what will happen next is that the Official Receiver will carry out his investigations, once they are complete he will file his final report with CH. 3 months from the date of filing SOM will be deemed to have been dissolved.
Apparently what will happen next is that the Official Receiver will carry out his investigations, once they are complete he will file his final report with CH. 3 months from the date of filing SOM will be deemed to have been dissolved.
Hi All
My Police friend came back to me today, with good and bad news; due to how wide spread we, the investors, are we can't all use the same crime number to report this Fraud.
However we can report it to the National Fraud Authority, I have the number and will call them this week. Once I have a way forward I will let you know.
Actually if anyone else wants to call them the number is 0300 123 2040.
Cheers
Mugs
Fleeced&co
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Mugs, hi, I called them, all of their reports get sent through to Operation Archway group.
My Police friend came back to me today, with good and bad news; due to how wide spread we, the investors, are we can't all use the same crime number to report this Fraud.
However we can report it to the National Fraud Authority, I have the number and will call them this week. Once I have a way forward I will let you know.
Actually if anyone else wants to call them the number is 0300 123 2040.
Cheers
Mugs[/QUOTE]
My Police friend came back to me today, with good and bad news; due to how wide spread we, the investors, are we can't all use the same crime number to report this Fraud.
However we can report it to the National Fraud Authority, I have the number and will call them this week. Once I have a way forward I will let you know.
Actually if anyone else wants to call them the number is 0300 123 2040.
Cheers
Mugs[/QUOTE]
Hi FLEECED&CO
So we are stuck then? I have completed the Ops Archway form and e-mailed them and was told to report it to my local Police Station, who were reluctant to take the details??
Well my Policeman friend also told me to be a lot more forceful with them and threaten them with reporting them if they don't at least take my details and statement??
No wonder Lawyers earn so much! It pay's to Listen!!
Cheers
Mugs
Mugs
Everybody should report it to Op Archway and when you report it to your local police ensure you stress that you were defrauded and ask for a crime reference number. There may be some reluctance because it will affect statistics but don't take no for an answer.
Everybody should report it to Op Archway and when you report it to your local police ensure you stress that you were defrauded and ask for a crime reference number. There may be some reluctance because it will affect statistics but don't take no for an answer.
Well until this forum started we were all, well mostly all, still under the impression that this might have been all legit.
I'll be honest I started to get weary 3 years back when I stupidly made my last investment to ALV/SOM. After that I kept pushing for the share certs and finally was introduced to Paul Miller as UK IR. Then things seemed to improve on the information front even though it was all BULLS*@T.
But it shouldn't matter how old, or how long it's taken to report it, report it we should and give Ops Archway as much ammo as they need to bring these guys down!
Cheers
Mugs
Yes I'm not trying to discourage anyone from reporting it, in fact I've been saying to report it since it became apparent that a boiler room was involved. I'm just saying that if you go to the police and report that you sent your money to a stranger 4 or 5 years ago and you are now reporting it and you now expect them to investigate it fully then don't be surprised if they're not too keen. You may need to convince them that this is a long running and complex fraud but that you know the identities of those involved.
Fleeced&co
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Given the characters involved in the winding up it isn't beyond the realms of the imagination that these people are part of the scam.........draws a line under this one and keeps the monies to those involved.
Fleeced,
Who knows what went on behind the scenes, like I I said before this is very complex, Udo Schaar is linked to about 150 domain names, Frank Brauer was linked to more than 10 websites (many of which are now down) and there were numerous 'businesses' registered at the Windhag 7 address and at a farmhouse in Sussex and that's only the stuff we know about.
I think the only thing that is clear is that SOM was a scam from day one and anyone who 'invested' in it has, barring unforseen miracles, lost their money.
Also it was reported to me by a forum user via a PM that the Windhag 7 address was raided and blitzed over a period of days????
Well I think I need to take a day off work to collate everything, report it to CoL Police and then take it all down to the local PS and pass on the information.
Cheers
Mugs
Mugs
If what you were told is right then the net is closing. Must be a worrying time for everyone involved in running or supporting SOM.
It would seem so!!! Pity our law enforcement agencies aren't as determined to keep/put certain people behind bars!!!
Has anyone heard anything from the OR yet? I keep e-mailing them but get no response???? Is the OR, SOM in disguise ???
Cheers
Mugs
It would seem so!!! Pity our law enforcement agencies aren't as determined to keep/put certain people behind bars!!!
Has anyone heard anything from the OR yet? I keep e-mailing them but get no response???? Is the OR, SOM in disguise ???
Cheers
Mugs
I'm guessing he's had a lot of e mails from SOM investors. I've noticed lately that there are a lot of new members viewing this thread. It seems the word has spread, hopefully some more people will come forward and post their information here.
It would seem so!!! Pity our law enforcement agencies aren't as determined to keep/put certain people behind bars!!!
Has anyone heard anything from the OR yet? I keep e-mailing them but get no response???? Is the OR, SOM in disguise ???
Cheers
Mugs
Mugs
Companies House have also published a 'notice of appointment of liquidator (compulsory)'. I don't know if that tells us anything new. Maybe you'd want to check the notice in case the contact details are different to what you have.
