those indicators aren't much of a thing... really. its like any other oscillator... what they can do is help you confirm the wave.
For example 3rd waves are the strongest waves and the biggest, it's where techincals top (in oscillators, advance decline issues, volume, etc - also in fundamentals but these on a much bigger time frame like years... for example fundamentals during the 60's were better than fundamentals of the 83-2000 bull, because fifth waves are a hope of continuing the movement, so there's a lack of momentum, fundamentals are worse, techincals as well... 5th waves is where divergences are created. so you can check RSI's, stochastics, MACD's.... any kind of oscillators will help you assess the divergences that's what those indicators you talk about are for most likely