Note to newer traders!: Over at mypivots.com, ive tried to create an 'army' of sucessfull traders who have taken my work to the next level. the es threads and the charts sections are must reading. Check out VOwater and P.T.eminis work,both 5 star generals in my opinion and Bruces vol work ,also worthy of attention. I suppose you could 'piggyback 'our trades and make money as we do, but if your a serious student of the markets and learn to use these techniques on your own(not that difficult) youll never need 'gurus' expensive 'systems' or vendors again! Good trading all!