Profitable support trading on indices Dow ,dax ,Nasdaq and s&p

[malaguti]

Here :80 % of trend breakouts fail ,that is why nobody posts breakouts here anymore.40% is up breakouts + 40 % is down breakouts , 10 % is down breakouts on indices = 90 % cause we only trade longs on up biased indices.

Evidence shows indices shorts are only profitable 25% of the time , failure of shorts is 75%.

well your post here is quite explicit

that almost 80% of ALL breakouts fail
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/technical-analysis/223916-wot-happens-next-9.html#post2911962

so now its not 80% of all breakouts fail, its just 40%. The only reason i say that is Barjon was talking about a breakout long strategy which you responded as saying that 80% fail
so in other words the breakout strategy will be profitable 60% of the time?
thats great for all breakout traders then. 60% of breakouts are successful if long..

this is great news. so if 60% of all long breakouts are successful why are you changing your strategy from a breakout strategy to a non breakout strategy?

i think your village want you back foroom

 

[foroom lluzers]

well your post here is quite explicit

that almost 80% of ALL breakouts fail
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/technical-analysis/223916-wot-happens-next-9.html#post2911962

so now its not 80% of all breakouts fail, its just 40%. The only reason i say that is Barjon was talking about a breakout long strategy which you responded as saying that 80% fail
so in other words the breakout strategy will be profitable 60% of the time?
thats great for all breakout traders then. 60% of breakouts are successful if long..

this is great news. so if 60% of all long breakouts are successful why are you changing your strategy from a breakout strategy to a non breakout strategy?

i think your village want you back foroom

40 % equates to 80% , say you have 20 trades ,10 longs and 10 shorts , if you take only 10 trades 40% don't fail but 80/90 % of breakouts fail.

It is % of total trades placed ,80 % of uptrend breakouts fail and 80% of down trend breakouts fail , as Barjon's only 2 out of 2 potential trades both failed in uptrend on BT and Diageo.

 

[Dowser]

i think your village want you back foroom

One does wonder what his village does for an idiot when he's haunting these hallowed pages

 

[malaguti]

40 % equates to 80% , say you have 20 trades ,10 longs and 10 shorts , if you take only 10 trades 40% don't fail but 80/90 % of breakouts fail.

It is % of total trades placed ,80 % of uptrend breakouts fail and 80% of down trend breakouts fail , as Barjon's only 2 out of 2 potential trades both failed in uptrend on BT and Diageo.

no, I think your maths is wrong..you have just stated quite clearly
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920088
40% fail if long, 40% fail if short

so if you take 10 long and 10 short, 40% of 10 will fail ie 4 trades, 40% of shorts will fail. so thats 8 out of 20 will fail
8 out of 20 is not 80% failure its a 60% win rate

is maths not one of your strong points either?

your village foroom, think of your village

 

[malaguti]

40 % equates to 80% , say you have 20 trades ,10 longs and 10 shorts , if you take only 10 trades 40% don't fail but 80/90 % of breakouts fail.

It is % of total trades placed ,80 % of uptrend breakouts fail and 80% of down trend breakouts fail , as Barjon's only 2 out of 2 potential trades both failed in uptrend on BT and Diageo.

thats 100% by the way, in case you needed your toes

 

[foroom lluzers]

no, I think your maths is wrong..you have just stated quite clearly
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920088
40% fail if long, 40% fail if short

so if you take 10 long and 10 short, 40% of 10 will fail ie 4 trades, 40% of shorts will fail. so thats 8 out of 20 will fail
8 out of 20 is not 80% failure its a 60% win rate

is maths not one of your strong points either?

your village foroom, think of your village

How can 8 out of 20 fail , if only 8 out of 10 are traded?

 

[darktone]

It could be said that every single dax 1min breakout worked over the last 25 years. If worked meant goes into profit at some point.

 

[malaguti]

40 % equates to 80% , say you have 20 trades ,10 longs and 10 shorts , if you take only 10 trades 40% don't fail but 80/90 % of breakouts fail.

It is % of total trades placed ,80 % of uptrend breakouts fail and 80% of down trend breakouts fail , as Barjon's only 2 out of 2 potential trades both failed in uptrend on BT and Diageo.

How can 8 out of 20 fail , if only 8 out of 10 are traded?

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920104
you have stated 10 long and 10 short
if you trade all of them its 40% fail. thats what you said
if you trade 10, ie the long ones thats 40$ fail.

but im even more confused..
here you said 40% fail
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920088

now you're saying 40% don't fail
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920104

which is it..40% of long breakouts fail?
or 40% of long breakouts don't fail?

your village foroom...

 

[foroom lluzers]

thats 100% by the way, in case you needed your toes

Did you include psychology handicap ?Cause the guy who put on only 1 trade lost 2 trades on another trade

 

[malaguti]

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920104
you have stated 10 long and 10 short
if you trade all of them its 40% fail. thats what you said
if you trade 10, ie the long ones thats 40$ fail.

but im even more confused..
here you said 40% fail
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920088

now you're saying 40% don't fail
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920104

which is it..40% of long breakouts fail?
or 40% of long breakouts don't fail?

your village foroom...

still waiting foroom, as is your village

 

[foroom lluzers]

no, I think your maths is wrong..you have just stated quite clearly
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920088
40% fail if long, 40% fail if short

so if you take 10 long and 10 short, 40% of 10 will fail ie 4 trades, 40% of shorts will fail. so thats 8 out of 20 will fail
8 out of 20 is not 80% failure its a 60% win rate

is maths not one of your strong points either?

your village foroom, think of your village

go back to school and learn maths

 

[foroom lluzers]

still waiting foroom, as is your village

8 out of 10 up breakouts fail and 8 out 10 down breakouts fail ,that is 16 out 20.

Good luck to the breakout educators , cause 80% fail , and forums don't like the truth.

 

[malaguti]

go back to school and learn maths

which is it foroom
now 40% fail if with the trend
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920088

40% dont fail
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920104

first look at your own foroom, your village expects

 

[foroom lluzers]

still waiting foroom, as is your village

8 out of 10 up breakouts fail and 8 out 10 down breakouts fail ,that is 16 out 20.that is 80 %

 

[foroom lluzers]

Any more forum trolls want to kill the thread?

 

[malaguti]

8 out of 10 up breakouts fail and 8 out 10 down breakouts fail ,that is 16 out 20.that is 80 %

40% fail if with the trend
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-3.html#post2920088

these are your words, not mine foroom
40% of upbreakouts...

now your back to 80% of upbreaks?

why the change?

 

[foroom lluzers]

This is what forums are!

 

[malaguti]

This is what forums are!

still waiting...as is your village
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-5.html#post2920144

 

[foroom lluzers]

still waiting...as is your village
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/ind...indices-dow-dax-nasdaq-s-p-5.html#post2920144

This is your village , maybe you got conflict of interest on forums with free profitable methods , you protect your interests and raise dumb arguments.

 

[tomorton]

In any case, buying upward break-outs from an uptrend is a mistake. Trading options is a mistake. Buying at increasing position sizes below support to recover losses is a mistake.

I am glad to be able to firm up my conclusions on what not to do.