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[Splitlink]

I have just been pmed by a very reputable and totally credible member here who says he saw Socrates do 54 profitable trades in a row.

So I guess I must humbly eat my words up there and make amends.

Socrates, if you're reading this, looks like you can after all trade your way out of a paper bag if your life depends or doesn't depend on that.

You still spouted BS, but you can apparently trade.

I never doubted his ability to trade normally until he started on his "writing naked put options" thread. Prior to that, it was his contemptious treatment of other peoples' opinions that I found to be unacceptable. However, the options thread, IMO, was nothing more than a casino. It should have been entitled "How to lose all your money in one easy lesson"

His insulting remarks to me, in the "Wot Charts" episode, I could take, too, no problem, in fact, a weekend bun fight, as LM called them, helped to clarify many things to many readers.

 

[TheBramble]

I have just been pmed by a very reputable and totally credible member here who says he saw Socrates do 54 profitable trades in a row.

Only 54? Stopped just short of a Fib....

 

[karl6666]

people might not want to share their exact strategy mainly because of fear of ridicule, but ideas are shared and discussed.
And the light heart -ed entertainment is good.

But like i said earlier you will find what you seek.

Gamma

exactly, im an expert in everything.. except trading. I learn a lot on this forum, its a relief from looking at graphs all day

:clover:

 

[DaveJB]

Socrates was entertaining,
quite often the entertainment was of the sort that had people spitting feathers or reaching for the bottle ("damn good furniture polish this, wonder what vintage it is...?") He was followed by others who were merely uncouth. Just thought I'd add that to stop the naggverts at the screen top telling me I'm not posting often enough.

it isn't so clear who is part of the "get rich quick brigade" and who isn't.

- what's this 'quick' business.... you mean it isn't meant to take this long?

Hi Bramble

Dave

 

[zupcon]

yes, the ability to control the content in your own thread was indeed being rolled out, I believe it was supposed to be already in place on the journals forum, there may be tech difficulties and why this hasn't happened yet.

The obvious problem with this strategy is it allows vendors to silence those who may legitimately wish to post alternative viewpoints. Mr stupid vendor will basically just blatently delete anything he doesnt want seen, Mr slightly more intelligent vendor will use a non vendor sock puppet to start the thread, then delete content.

Having said that, if the strategy is to promote more spam (and more low quality traffic) it'll probably work like a charm

 

[Lightning McQueen]

yes there is awareness of the problems you point out. i can definitely see abuses by the thread starter of shutting down criticism, thereby creating a one sided pointless debate. on the other hand, if it shuts down the idiots then it may work in improving post/thread quality. we shall have to wait and see.

 

[Schixm]

don't want to be speaking out of turn, but wouldn't the ability for the OP to simply HIDE the comments be a reasonable compromise? that way anybody could view all comments if they choose, it just woudn't be the default view for the thread. it would also make some of the teaching threads and journals much easier to read through (but in that case the hidden comments wouldn't be 'disapproved', just hidden for the sake of continuity and fluidity - if the OP chose to do that of course).

 

[Skill Leverage]

vegas, you make 30 posts a year, and you choose to use up a decent chunk of 2009's allocation on a thread about the other threads being boring - now that's value for money.

I found this site very useful as a complete novice a year ago, I still do find it useful. The information, people and experience are all here, you just need to know how to find it and extract the most from it, which most people don't. Granted it doesn't help that there's a lot of threads from vendors or people looking to make a million in days, but if you can't filter out what's not relevant to you and concentrate on what is going to help you, then your chances of being a good trader are fairly limited imo.

 

[Skill Leverage]

yes there is awareness of the problems you point out. i can definitely see abuses by the thread starter of shutting down criticism, thereby creating a one sided pointless debate. on the other hand, if it shuts down the idiots then it may work in improving post/thread quality. we shall have to wait and see.

Surely this is the moderators' job? Giving the OP the power to edit his thread kind of takes away the 'forum' element - you need impartiality to effectively control content, otherwise as has been said, your OP can simply censor his thread to suit himself.

 

[Lightning McQueen]

Surely this is the moderators' job? Giving the OP the power to edit his thread kind of takes away the 'forum' element - you need impartiality to effectively control content, otherwise as has been said, your OP can simply censor his thread to suit himself.

yes currently the mods job. i would guess there would be guidelines to prevent abuse and mods would oversee this. overall i see an improvement of post content if rolled out.

ok, lets take an example from today of how this could work.

triple off topic spam litters thread, OP reports posts, mod finds and deletes said posts, in this instance there was less than 10 mins between report and action taken, but if mods are busy on other multiple spammage or just not available then a lot more time can result between report and action, so thread stays littered. why not cut out the middle man (the mods) and the OP delete posts of the spammers/idiots, um, putting me out of a job

 

[DaveJB]

on the other hand, if it shuts down the idiots

One man's idiot is another man's useful thingummy chap. Errr....what I mean IS... the idiot posts and spam are the price of ensuring frank and free debate, and have to be moderated out by an impartial observer - otherwise this site would rapidly go under as vendors and the crackpots suppressed dissent.

If thread readers object to a high idiot/spam content then by referring the offending posts they can have them removed - sure it takes a little while, but it's better than having newbies on here following the advice on naked put writing (for one example) because anyone suggesting the Op is barking mad is silenced.

I can't see an 'ignore' button anywhere - used on other sites so you don't have to read posts from serial idiots...seems to work okay without handing carte blanche to the deranged.

Dave

 

[arabianights]

Dave, all you have to do is click my screename to the left of this post and you will see at the bottom "Add arabianights to your ignore list" or words to that effect

 

[Claudia123]

One man's idiot is another man's useful thingummy chap. Errr....what I mean IS... the idiot posts and spam are the price of ensuring frank and free debate, and have to be moderated out by an impartial observer - otherwise this site would rapidly go under as vendors and the crackpots suppressed dissent.

If thread readers object to a high idiot/spam content then by referring the offending posts they can have them removed - sure it takes a little while, but it's better than having newbies on here following the advice on naked put writing (for one example) because anyone suggesting the Op is barking mad is silenced.

I can't see an 'ignore' button anywhere - used on other sites so you don't have to read posts from serial idiots...seems to work okay without handing carte blanche to the deranged.

Dave

Dave

You seem to miss the point - the deranged ones make the forums so much fun!! There's loads here and I bet Arabian can name one or two or three or .............n. If you dont like them as Arabian says block them including him (lol Arabian I don't put you it that class - sure you wouldn't care anyway!!).

Some of the threads here have had me crying laughing as some people just will not be helped. Come back Spanish and the rest.

 

[arabianights]

well spanish is looking for a flat share if anyone is interested...

 

[counter_violent]

Some of the threads here have had me crying laughing as some people just will not be helped. Come back Spanish and the rest.

Good idea for a thread . Start us off ?

If only you could see some of the stuff that was deleted....really just too funny

 

[sandpiper]

Dave

You seem to miss the point - the deranged ones make the forums so much fun!!

Oh I dunno. You Krauts are pretty good value for money as well. You and Markus are a real hoot..

 

[gamma]

well spanish is looking for a flat share if anyone is interested...

I was wondering whatever hapenedto him
Does he still post on elitetrader I don't think hi 5 to 10 % thread is still running.

 

[oildaytrader]

I can't see an 'ignore' button anywhere - used on other sites so you don't have to read posts from serial idiots...seems to work okay without handing carte blanche to the deranged.

Dave

Good idea .Ban the moderators so we can have a good lauf.

O D T

 

[arabianights]

I was wondering whatever hapenedto him
Does he still post on elitetrader I don't think hi 5 to 10 % thread is still running.

no idea but he's still on msn and still alive, so I wouldn't worry

 

[Black Swan]

These type of posts ( on any forum I frequent) always make me smile, particularly if they come from posters who look more towards hiving content/opinion as opposed to regularly contributing....

What can the long term posters actually 'teach/inform'? What do you need to actually trade; beyond a bit of cash, self control and an edge/set up that works/makes money consistently...? In my early days on here I PM'd a few of the regular guys to ask opinion on my set up/edge, it was obvious I was on the right track and simply needed re-confirmation to put in the graft/hours to make it work, beyond that what more does anyone expect from a forum? IMHO (if) T2W suffers from anything it's the fact that there's too many sub forums of sub forums and this general forum just has light content..

If you havn't developed an edge, got a set up that works then keep looking, or go back to the day job. I'd suggest most successful traders don't come here to discuss tweaking their stochs or the MACD, I mean it's fooking obvious what the lagging/leading indicators do/show, after a few months of chart studying trying to figure out how and why price action starts 'works' it clicks, why then the need to discuss it in micro detail? Just go and make cash and come here for banter

For me T2W is simply a virtual pub, full of one or two odd characters, but moreover very interesting and informed contributors who simply get on with the job without constantly bleating that life has duffed them up.