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I see that pervert Langham only got 10 months in jail.

The judge who previously said that the seriousness of his offences were at the top end of the scale was obviously talking out of his a**eh**e.

Or did he just like Langham's TV programmes ?

What was it again ?

One law for.........
 
One things for sure that he'll be preyed on now by the Cons just waiting for one chance to kick the sh*t out of him. These people can never be rehabilitated the twisted tw*ts. Castration or life should be the norm.............
 
Apparently, the maximum sentence is 10 years and bearing in mind the judge's comments at the end of the trial, isn't it just a little bit odd that he actually only got 10 months ?

Maybe the learned judge was a bit p***ed and said months instead of years or maybe he and Langham are up each other's rear end (s) !!!!!!!!!

Nothing would surprise me anymore.
 
Apparently, the maximum sentence is 10 years and bearing in mind the judge's comments at the end of the trial, isn't it just a little bit odd that he actually only got 10 months ?

Maybe the learned judge was a bit p***ed and said months instead of years or maybe he and Langham are up each other's rear end (s) !!!!!!!!!

Nothing would surprise me anymore.

When a persons soul is rotten it can't be rehabilitated. Too much value is placed on human life irrespective of conduct.

Capital punishment should be brought back imo.

If either of my children was mistreated at the hands of such people - may God forbid, I would take out the offender and any judge who gave it 10 months as an accomplice. As a father I don't think I could handle the situation if I did not receive closure on my grieviance. Otherwise I would probably become an alcholic or some derranged monster.

That slimey git made out the girl was a liar and everything else to save his skin. I hope he gets his due inside. I really do.

If society can't defend my my children I'll take the law in to my hands in dishing out the punishment to save my sanity.
 
If either of my children was mistreated at the hands of such people - may God forbid, I would take out the offender

Agreed.........same

If society can't defend my my children I'll take the law in to my hands in dishing out the punishment to save my sanity.

Again...fully agree.
 
When a persons soul is rotten it can't be rehabilitated. Too much value is placed on human life irrespective of conduct.

Capital punishment should be brought back imo.

If either of my children was mistreated at the hands of such people - may God forbid, I would take out the offender and any judge who gave it 10 months as an accomplice. As a father I don't think I could handle the situation if I did not receive closure on my grieviance. Otherwise I would probably become an alcholic or some derranged monster.

That slimey git made out the girl was a liar and everything else to save his skin. I hope he gets his due inside. I really do.

If society can't defend my my children I'll take the law in to my hands in dishing out the punishment to save my sanity.

Listen to you lot. Thank God we have a legal system and law and order, otherwise kangeroo courts and lynchings would be the order of the day.

What about the innocent people who have been accused of these crimes? I remember seeing a guy on telly in Manchester whose name had been published mistakenly on the internet for a child molester. The reaction of his neighbourhood was abysmal. There was a lynch mob outside his house ready to string him up.

As for the offenders who hae been proven guilty in a court of law.These people need professional help.

..be ye to cast the first stone and all that...etc
 
I'l cast the first stone. When theres proof and its proven, f*ck em.

I havent got kids yet but if i did and anyone touched em. Kangeroo court it is. There's too many politicaly correct ethics in todays society.

Keep robbing people get off lightly

Get caught with drugs. Get off lightly.

Rape someone. Get off lightly

Murder Someone and say you didnt mean it. Get off lightly

Spray on the side of a train. Get 12 months............

What a load of Codswallop...........
 
Listen to you lot. Thank God we have a legal system and law and order, otherwise kangeroo courts and lynchings would be the order of the day.

What about the innocent people who have been accused of these crimes? I remember seeing a guy on telly in Manchester whose name had been published mistakenly on the internet for a child molester. The reaction of his neighbourhood was abysmal. There was a lynch mob outside his house ready to string him up.

As for the offenders who hae been proven guilty in a court of law.These people need professional help.

..be ye to cast the first stone and all that...etc

Courts found him guilty didn't they?

You can also bet your nelly, that of these two criminal activities there are bound to me many times more occasions or incidents that go unrecorded or detected.

What professional help you referring to? Where is any evidence of it working? These people don't get better, but their tendencies and offences become worse!

So do you feel 10 months is sufficient time for his condition and sins (including buggery) of a 14/15 year old girl? People like him provide the market for sick twits to produce material that leads to unimaginable suffering of little children.

Makes me utterly sick and then some smart alek pops up who is so high and mighty.

I'll cast the first stone too damn right. :mad:
 
Thank God we have a legal system and law and order

It is insufficiently effective and is fatally flawed when you have sympathetic judges.

As for the offenders who hae been proven guilty in a court of law.These people need professional help.

Apologists will always crawl out of the woodwork in these politically correct times.

They need professional help alright but not the kind that you are talking about.

The local vet ( armed with a scalpel ) should be able to provide the required level of professional help.
 
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It's not foolproof, but there are fewer fools....

In a similar vein to Rols there to was a situation some years ago in the UK where the local ‘community’ found out they had a Paediatrician living in their midst. He was given an appropriately hard time (windows, doors kicked in, graffiti house, beaten up) for a few days before he found out was his ‘crime’ had been and why he was being punished. I’m not sure what the result was when the police informed his attackers of the difference between a paedophile and a Paediatrician (dunno who told them the difference…), but the national news went cold on the topic as it was presumably of little further interest to their interests.

My point being that while I largely support the appropriate handling of those who break the law (where those laws are genuinely supportive of the wider community) and where I unconditionally and fully support the use of unrestrained and terminal violence against anyone who does my even the slightest disservice such as a sideways glance, I’d still imagine you’d all prefer to live somewhere where there was at least some attempt at assessing guilt and applying an approximately appropriate sentence. Otherwise, you’d have to accept the consequence of you accidentally ending up on the wrong side of things through no fault of your own and being summarily dealt with by a bunch of thick, red-necked low-lifes with absolutely no interest in the finer points of law at all. Your choice.
 
I see your point Tony.

In this country it seems that assessment of guilt or otherwise is not the problem.

It is the latitude that is given to a judge in meting out a sentence.

Take Langham's case for example.

If his name had been Thicko Bloggs and he was a chavvy, drunken piece of low life who also just happened to be a paedophile, he would probably have gone down for the maximum 10 years.

Langham, on the other hand, is an actor in the public eye and he may well automatically get a much reduced sentence simply because of his celebrity profile.

Some judges may well be swayed by this and therein lies the problem.

I believe that judges should be solely legal arbiters in court cases but that when it comes to sentencing they should not be allowed to pontificate on morality etc. etc., and should certainly not be in a position to give either 10 months or 10 years to any offender.

Sentencing scales should be narrowed and tightened up significantly and judges should be reined in.

Whoa neddy !!
 
On a similar note, didn't we recently have the case of the High Court Judge who was accused of flashing his privates at a lady on a train ?

He got off....in more ways than one !!

Was it because of his status do you think ??
 
In a similar vein to Rols there to was a situation some years ago in the UK where the local ‘community’ found out they had a Paediatrician living in their midst. He was given an appropriately hard time (windows, doors kicked in, graffiti house, beaten up) for a few days before he found out was his ‘crime’ had been and why he was being punished. I’m not sure what the result was when the police informed his attackers of the difference between a paedophile and a Paediatrician (dunno who told them the difference…), but the national news went cold on the topic as it was presumably of little further interest to their interests.

My point being that while I largely support the appropriate handling of those who break the law (where those laws are genuinely supportive of the wider community) and where I unconditionally and fully support the use of unrestrained and terminal violence against anyone who does my even the slightest disservice such as a sideways glance, I’d still imagine you’d all prefer to live somewhere where there was at least some attempt at assessing guilt and applying an approximately appropriate sentence. Otherwise, you’d have to accept the consequence of you accidentally ending up on the wrong side of things through no fault of your own and being summarily dealt with by a bunch of thick, red-necked low-lifes with absolutely no interest in the finer points of law at all. Your choice.


If the public act in dishing out criminal attacks on innocent people they too should be brought before the courts and punished for GBH or what ever crimes they have committed. Don't dispute that.

Problem is even where people have been convicted in court with over whelming evidence they get off with little or no real punishment.

I remember a story where two perverts were freed from prison who within two days kidnapped a 7 year old boy around Bristol, had there way with him and then strangled him and dumped his body in some woods. Apparrently this is all they talked about and planned in prison... :devilish:

People who are caught peddling these pictures of this stuff on the web get peanuts compared to what they are feeding. Two years or less. Some get a letter saying stop it or take your site down that is unacceptable. Absolutely un-imaginable.

In Belgium the police and judges were part of a ring of paedophiles hence why the offenders could not be caught or even when caught got freed from police custody. I dread to think what justice Belgium citizens can expect if these people are in the judicial system.

You'd think we have the resources to fight collosal wars killing innocent people and here we are with all the information and resources and technology available, we can't shut down a few websites or lock up most dangerous and disgusting vile human beings.

Let's continue talking about miscarriage of justice aargh but what if, instead of dealing with facts on the ground when such people are caught, found guilty in courts.


Here is one piece of fairly recent news June 06 - I just pulled out of google...
For example have can you treat this man and how long should he be locked up for and when might it be safe for him to come out?

You want proof?

You want the truth?

I think once courts find him guilty I don't think I could handle the truth. :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
Don't think Langham is being done for touching any children. It is to do with the dodgy images found on his PC. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/6928288.stm

"However, the 58-year-old actor has been acquitted of charges of indecently assaulting an underage girl and two counts of a serious sexual offence."

Before we get T2W sued by Langham... ;)

"The images found on his computer were not child pornography. They were horrific images, still and video clips, of children being sexually abused. Chris Langham actively searched for those images."

Quite sickening... that he prefers looking at children (and apparently was a victim of child abuse which goes some way to explaining what he did; I understand that many paedos were abused as a child) suggests that he needs professional help. And, yes, it does work.
 
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Whats the hope of a fair trial when most of the judges are likely paedophiles/deviants anyway? :eek:
 
I work in the industry; I help people out of that dark place in their lives and guide them towards a happier state of being.

You call this evidence?

I think not?

Any studies you can point us to which conclude they can be cured?
 
It's good enough for me and my clients. I don't deal with paedophiles specifically, but I see no reason why it can't work.

TBH I am not that bothered about the existence of evidence via studies. Feel free to google it if you feel you need to know.

The bottom line for me is that I know that my clients' issues are dealt with.
 
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It's good enough for me and my clients. I don't deal with paedophiles specifically, but I see no reason why it can't work.

TBH I am not that bothered about the existence of evidence via studies. Feel free to google it if you feel you need to know.

The bottom line for me is that I know that my clients' issues are dealt with.


Just one article quoting two studies. One controlled and one not.

I am not so sure: the offenders I spoke to - who were both at the end of the SOTP - were still speaking in a muddled way about their crimes. In the case of Joe, even the basic narrative of his offence contained factual contradictions.

A Home Office study in 1998, however, claimed to find that the programme is effective in reducing the rate of sex-offending. Offenders were tested before and after the SOTP (and again nine months later), and virtually everyone claimed to have fewer distorted thoughts about children and a better understanding of the effect abuse has on kids. But worryingly, even by the end of the programme, very few of the men were giving test answers that were in line with the responses from your average man in the street.

The study also found that those who had been released into the community had rapidly deteriorating "relapse prevention skills" - which means, in everyday language, that they were finding it hard not to go out and abuse another child.

The Home Office research used no control group - a flaw that plagues the academic literature on sex offenders. Because it had nothing to compare its results to, we do not know how a group of similar men who did not go on the SOTP changed during that time. As a result, the study and many others like it are of very little value - yet our practitioners and policy-makers rely on its findings.

In contrast, a unique study was conducted with a control group. The psychologist J K Marques and three colleagues wrote about the findings for the journal Criminal Justice and Behaviour. They monitored paedophiles who were part of a very extensive programme of both individual and group treatment and, after they were released, of a year-long aftercare programme. These offenders were given the highest-quality treatment known for paedophiles, and it might have been hoped that there would be impressive results.

Yet the treatment made no difference at all. Those who had been through the programme were just as likely to reoffend as those with no treatment at all.

It seems, on this evidence, that Sigmund Freud might have been right after all when he judged paedophilia to be an intractable sexual orientation, entirely unresponsive to treatment. In the mid-20th century, we moved away from this view towards a belief that we could treat paedophiles sufficiently to release them into the community. There were honourable experiments conducted by people like Jan Evans. But judging by the available evidence, these experiments are shown to have failed.

Most paedophiles are, as the child abuse expert Dr W F Glaser of the University of Melbourne argues, "long-term recidivists. The oldest offenders in the clinic where I consult are in their eighties . . . Burglars, car thieves and brawlers all appear to give up in their thirties, but paedophiles just keep on offending." Combine this with the knowledge that sex offences against children have a negligibly low detection rate, and it becomes clear that the stakes, when a paedophile is released, are unusually high.

Some on the hard right, especially in the United States, have argued for a very different approach to treatment. They advocate "treating" paedophiles with drugs that drain them of sexual desire ("chemical castration"), or even actual castration. Yet study after study has found that these "treatments" never stop sex offenders. Shorn of the ability to maintain an erection, the molesters simply continue their abuse by using objects instead of their *****.

The sad conclusion to which all this cold evidence leads is that paedophiles can never be released safely because the risk of recidivism is so great. Perhaps this disappointing statement could be twinned by a brave politician (David Blunkett?) with the less palatable, but no less true, assertion that almost all paedophiles have been sexually abused themselves. These are not satanic monsters, but tragic, pitiful figures.

Once we conclude that they can never be released, but nor are they evil, we could begin to talk about treating them humanely.


http://www.newstatesman.com/200203250009

PS This is not my writing just what I grabbed off google.

PS 2. I share this point of view unless shown otherwise.
 
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