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Metatrader Misery- Part II
Is Erlan Saduakasov a real person? Well, judging from this You Tube video he is.
YouTube - Erlan Saduakasov speaking himself
Erlan has been waging a non-stop crusade against FX Open for several months now. He appears on bulletin boards, has his own website (FXOpen.com is a scam company! Beware!) and appears to be quite convincing. Did Erlan lose money at FX Open? Probably. Is Erlan working for or working with FX Open’s hated rival Poltek FX? It sure looks that way.
The evidence is a thread at ForexTSD in which Erlan’s IP address gets traced back to one of Poltek FX’s offices in St. Petersburg, Russia.
Brokers Scam - Page 5 - Forex Trading
The office Erlan was traced back to was FXIndia.org, which is one of the many front groups Poltek uses to recruit customers. Other ones include “Master Forex” (yup, that’s the Swiss outfit that said it doesn’t need to get a banking license and you’ll know why in a moment), Beaverhead Financial, Iberia Forex, and others.
Poltek’s official business address is listed in Belize and like FX Open they too have a useless fill in the blank “certificate” which can be flashed in the faces of naïve traders whenever pesky questions about “regulation” come up:
http://www.poltekfx.com/pic/sertificat.jpg
Another note about Poltek’s address is that their other company, MasterForex, claims an address in Switzerland. Yet it appears this address is fictitious. When a poster at a bulletin board stated they couldn’t actually find Masterforex’s office and asked them if this office even existed a Masterforex’s spokesman refused to provide any additional information and just stated “we also have an office in Russia where you can meet us.” You’d have to be a pretty brave person to want to visit this Russian office knowing the Swiss office actually listed on their website is bogus.
RECOMMENDED BROKER - Masterforex - masterforex.org - Page 12 - CariGold Forum
As for Master Forex’s regulatory status, you guessed it; Master Forex has its own certificate from the Seychelles it likes to use to ward off those evil regulatory spirits: http://www.masterforex.org/upload/image/fullsize/13.jpg
Why so many different registrations and addresses? Well I guess it never hurts to have a second getaway vehicle in case the first one breaks down. And just as with FX Open you won’t find the actual names of any CEO’s or executive officers on any of these websites. Just addresses for P.O. boxes or links to instant messenger addresses. I’m stunned that anyone would actually consider sending their money to such financial phantoms who can conjure themselves up on a moment’s notice and then disappear without leaving a trace.
Of course, Poltek knows their lack of credibility is a problem which is why they dangle all sorts of goodies before the trading public’s eyes in an attempt to make sure traders don’t look behind the curtain. They offer pip rebates, insane 500:1 leverage, trading volume bonuses, deposit bonuses and even have a special bonus for traders who drive up traffic on their forums by posting sycophantic rubbish.
Poltek FX - Bonus Money
So even though Poltek has no credibility they are able to woo newbies who are looking for a bargain. But the competition for these newbies is fierce which is why Poltek and FX Open are at each other’s throats.
This Russian version of the Hatfields and the McCoys is likely to continue well into the future with both screeching at each other in the comical form of broken English as seen below in this Poltek broadside against FX Open:
Forex Trading - View Single Post - Poltekfx
I love how Poltek, with its busted English and awful grammar, has the nerve to ridicule FX Open’s poor language skills. I don’t think that is the best strategery Poltek should be using against FX Open. In any case FX Open claims Poltek stole their clients and Poltek claims FX Open stole its clients… This tit for tat pretty much summarizes the poor state of affairs these two firms find themselves in today.
So to those MT4 traders who are constantly on the move like Bedouin tribesmen in search of a broker, be sure not to pitch your tents with either of these two dealers. Bedouins are supposed to be adept at spotting mirages, and FX Open and Poltek FX are merely mirages of legitimate forex dealers.
Is Erlan Saduakasov a real person? Well, judging from this You Tube video he is.
YouTube - Erlan Saduakasov speaking himself
Erlan has been waging a non-stop crusade against FX Open for several months now. He appears on bulletin boards, has his own website (FXOpen.com is a scam company! Beware!) and appears to be quite convincing. Did Erlan lose money at FX Open? Probably. Is Erlan working for or working with FX Open’s hated rival Poltek FX? It sure looks that way.
The evidence is a thread at ForexTSD in which Erlan’s IP address gets traced back to one of Poltek FX’s offices in St. Petersburg, Russia.
Brokers Scam - Page 5 - Forex Trading
The office Erlan was traced back to was FXIndia.org, which is one of the many front groups Poltek uses to recruit customers. Other ones include “Master Forex” (yup, that’s the Swiss outfit that said it doesn’t need to get a banking license and you’ll know why in a moment), Beaverhead Financial, Iberia Forex, and others.
Poltek’s official business address is listed in Belize and like FX Open they too have a useless fill in the blank “certificate” which can be flashed in the faces of naïve traders whenever pesky questions about “regulation” come up:
http://www.poltekfx.com/pic/sertificat.jpg
Another note about Poltek’s address is that their other company, MasterForex, claims an address in Switzerland. Yet it appears this address is fictitious. When a poster at a bulletin board stated they couldn’t actually find Masterforex’s office and asked them if this office even existed a Masterforex’s spokesman refused to provide any additional information and just stated “we also have an office in Russia where you can meet us.” You’d have to be a pretty brave person to want to visit this Russian office knowing the Swiss office actually listed on their website is bogus.
RECOMMENDED BROKER - Masterforex - masterforex.org - Page 12 - CariGold Forum
As for Master Forex’s regulatory status, you guessed it; Master Forex has its own certificate from the Seychelles it likes to use to ward off those evil regulatory spirits: http://www.masterforex.org/upload/image/fullsize/13.jpg
Why so many different registrations and addresses? Well I guess it never hurts to have a second getaway vehicle in case the first one breaks down. And just as with FX Open you won’t find the actual names of any CEO’s or executive officers on any of these websites. Just addresses for P.O. boxes or links to instant messenger addresses. I’m stunned that anyone would actually consider sending their money to such financial phantoms who can conjure themselves up on a moment’s notice and then disappear without leaving a trace.
Of course, Poltek knows their lack of credibility is a problem which is why they dangle all sorts of goodies before the trading public’s eyes in an attempt to make sure traders don’t look behind the curtain. They offer pip rebates, insane 500:1 leverage, trading volume bonuses, deposit bonuses and even have a special bonus for traders who drive up traffic on their forums by posting sycophantic rubbish.
Poltek FX - Bonus Money
So even though Poltek has no credibility they are able to woo newbies who are looking for a bargain. But the competition for these newbies is fierce which is why Poltek and FX Open are at each other’s throats.
This Russian version of the Hatfields and the McCoys is likely to continue well into the future with both screeching at each other in the comical form of broken English as seen below in this Poltek broadside against FX Open:
Forex Trading - View Single Post - Poltekfx
I love how Poltek, with its busted English and awful grammar, has the nerve to ridicule FX Open’s poor language skills. I don’t think that is the best strategery Poltek should be using against FX Open. In any case FX Open claims Poltek stole their clients and Poltek claims FX Open stole its clients… This tit for tat pretty much summarizes the poor state of affairs these two firms find themselves in today.
So to those MT4 traders who are constantly on the move like Bedouin tribesmen in search of a broker, be sure not to pitch your tents with either of these two dealers. Bedouins are supposed to be adept at spotting mirages, and FX Open and Poltek FX are merely mirages of legitimate forex dealers.
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IBFX's Annus Horribilis
It has not been a good year for Interbank FX. First FXLQ goes down resulting in the firm losing a key liquidity provider. Then FXLQ goes into receivership taking $10 million of IBFX's net capital with it. Now IBFX has just announced to the public that there was a major security breach and that customers who had applied for an account prior to April 2, 2007, had their personal information exposed on a rogue server accessible to anyone on the internet.
http://doj.nh.gov/consumer/pdf/interbank.pdf
To IBFX's credit they appear to have taken immediate steps to secure the information and are offering those customers who were potentially exposed free membership to a credit monitoring company. I'm not familiar with Corporate Law but it appears IBFX hired Kirkland & Ellis to contact State Attorneys General about this? Pretty Intensive damage control by the folks at Interbank.
But considering the news has broken all over the net well outside the forex community best to cover all bases I guess:
interbankfx security breach - Google Search
Let's hope Robert Gray hasn't been lurking around this rogue server all this time...
It has not been a good year for Interbank FX. First FXLQ goes down resulting in the firm losing a key liquidity provider. Then FXLQ goes into receivership taking $10 million of IBFX's net capital with it. Now IBFX has just announced to the public that there was a major security breach and that customers who had applied for an account prior to April 2, 2007, had their personal information exposed on a rogue server accessible to anyone on the internet.
http://doj.nh.gov/consumer/pdf/interbank.pdf
To IBFX's credit they appear to have taken immediate steps to secure the information and are offering those customers who were potentially exposed free membership to a credit monitoring company. I'm not familiar with Corporate Law but it appears IBFX hired Kirkland & Ellis to contact State Attorneys General about this? Pretty Intensive damage control by the folks at Interbank.
But considering the news has broken all over the net well outside the forex community best to cover all bases I guess:
interbankfx security breach - Google Search
Let's hope Robert Gray hasn't been lurking around this rogue server all this time...
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Swiss Dealer Update
Fransesc Riverola is doing a top notch job at FX Street keeping traders up to date about the latest regulatory changes in Switzerland. He has sent out questionnaires to the Swim FX Broker community and several have responded, most recently Crown Forex who has stated they are applying for a banking license.
Forex Street Weblog: Open letter to FXstreet's Swiss brokers - Crown Forex S.A response
Crown Forex’s CEO was quoted as saying:
BINGO. He is dead on. This is why I started the Swiss Dealer Dead Pool. The gig is up for the schlock shops in Switzerland. Either get a banking license or in the words of Der Terminator “GET OUT!” Firms will need to have a minimum $9 million in firm capital and meet a whole variety of accounting requirements in order to get a banking license.
The CEO of Crown Forex closed his remarks by saying:
Here an updated Dead Pool for the trading public.
Firms that claim they are applying for a banking license
1) ACM
2) Fibo Group
3) Crown Forex
4) DukasCopy
5) MIGfx
6) GFX Group (forex.ch)
Firms that are fleeing Swiss Regulation
1) Masterforex. Their business office is listed in Switzerland but they are registered in the Seychelles and have stated they do not need to get a banking license.
2) forex-swiss. FXCH, despite the fact they are NAMED "Forex Swiss" claim registration in Dominica. This is an odd company that has claimed multiple office addresses over the years including, Switzerland, Austria, South Africa, Iran, and the United States. Today they are claiming they have offices in Dominica and the United Kingdom. Tomorrow who knows, they could claim a mailing address in Tibet. Beware this firm.
3) Prime4X. Their head office is in Switzerland but they have stated they are applying for a license in Cyprus.
Firms that are no longer accepting customers or have been shutdown
1) WestCapFX
2) Tradex Swiss AG
3) Finex
4) Aleccohfx
Firms that refuse to comment
1) Swiss Direkt
2) Tadawulfx
3) Advised Trading
As always conduct your due diligence and make sure the firm you trade with is regulated and legit.
Fransesc Riverola is doing a top notch job at FX Street keeping traders up to date about the latest regulatory changes in Switzerland. He has sent out questionnaires to the Swim FX Broker community and several have responded, most recently Crown Forex who has stated they are applying for a banking license.
Forex Street Weblog: Open letter to FXstreet's Swiss brokers - Crown Forex S.A response
Crown Forex’s CEO was quoted as saying:
BINGO. He is dead on. This is why I started the Swiss Dealer Dead Pool. The gig is up for the schlock shops in Switzerland. Either get a banking license or in the words of Der Terminator “GET OUT!” Firms will need to have a minimum $9 million in firm capital and meet a whole variety of accounting requirements in order to get a banking license.
The CEO of Crown Forex closed his remarks by saying:
Here an updated Dead Pool for the trading public.
Firms that claim they are applying for a banking license
1) ACM
2) Fibo Group
3) Crown Forex
4) DukasCopy
5) MIGfx
6) GFX Group (forex.ch)
Firms that are fleeing Swiss Regulation
1) Masterforex. Their business office is listed in Switzerland but they are registered in the Seychelles and have stated they do not need to get a banking license.
2) forex-swiss. FXCH, despite the fact they are NAMED "Forex Swiss" claim registration in Dominica. This is an odd company that has claimed multiple office addresses over the years including, Switzerland, Austria, South Africa, Iran, and the United States. Today they are claiming they have offices in Dominica and the United Kingdom. Tomorrow who knows, they could claim a mailing address in Tibet. Beware this firm.
3) Prime4X. Their head office is in Switzerland but they have stated they are applying for a license in Cyprus.
Firms that are no longer accepting customers or have been shutdown
1) WestCapFX
2) Tradex Swiss AG
3) Finex
4) Aleccohfx
Firms that refuse to comment
1) Swiss Direkt
2) Tadawulfx
3) Advised Trading
As always conduct your due diligence and make sure the firm you trade with is regulated and legit.
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Shark Hunting in the Caribbean
With all these bogus claims from small time brokers claiming they are regulated because they hold a “certificate” they managed to pull out of a cereal box it is hard to know what to believe these days when a firm states they are “licensed.”
And perhaps no firm straddles the line between licensed and unregulated more than a firm by the name of GCI Financial. A reader asked me to provide some background on GCI recently and after doing a quick Internet search I found myself once again swimming in the deepest, darkest, murkiest depths of the Forex Ocean in search of that most dangerous dorsal finned predator of all- the offshore FX boiler-room.
GCI appears to have been started back in the 1990’s and used to be a U.S. based company with its CEO, Mitch Vasquez, living in Wilton, CT. It didn’t take too many clicks of the mouse to discover that GCI had been busted by the CFTC under the headline “CFTC CRACKS DOWN ON FOREIGN CURRENCY SCAMS NATIONWIDE.”
CFTC Press Release 4611-02
The complaint itself charged GCI for violating the Commodity Exchange Act. In short, the CFTC was taking GCI to court because they had not registered with the NFA (Hello FXDD! This could someday happen to you!)
http://www.cftc.gov/files/enf/02orders/enfgci-order.pdf
Also cited in this lawsuit was Vazquez. In 2002, Vazquez and GCI settled the suit and as part of the settlement Vazquez paid a $100,000 fine and agreed to
Sounds pretty clear to me. Basically, Vazquez and GCI were expected to close their doors and get out of the FX business.
But apparently GCI didn’t see it that way. Instead, they submerged beneath the water and headed to Belize. Well at least their “State of the Art” dealing room fled to Belize. But Vazquez doesn’t appear to have gone anywhere as a FEC filing showed he contributed $2000 to George Bush’s Presidential Campaign in 2004 where he listed an address in New Canaan, CT.
MITCHELL VAZQUEZ Donations -- Huffington Post
Meanwhile in Switzerland (cue up Jaws music)…
According to the gossip on the bulletin boards Vazquez had apparently branched out into the notorious Swiss Market. Rumor has it that GCI and GFX (Forex.CH) are the same firm. This was news to me. But several people have stated that Vazquez is also a director at GFX and also points out that the websites of GCI and GFX are remarkably similar and also housed on the same servers?
Forums - GFX Group SA - anyone has experience?
GFX Group SA
GFX Group Reviews | GFX Group forex Ratings | gfxsa.com reviews and ratings by Forex Peace Army
Also, it appears that GFX has recently gotten into some trouble with the Swiss Government according to one trader who cited this (translation welcome if anyone speaks Francais):
Renseignements internet du Registre du Commerce
As for GCI, it claims registration in Belize and you can actually verify they are in fact licensed by the regulatory authorities there:
ABOUT IFSC - International Financial Services Commission
Strangely, GCI doesn’t provide this link on their website which would allow traders to verify this independently which I just did as the Savior is nothing if not fair and balanced.
The reason GCI may be quiet about their regulatory status with Belize officials is because the IFSC does not actually do much aside from collect fees and provide “guidelines” to businesses. In fact, they state on their own website:
ABOUT IFSC - International Financial Services Commission
Bwahahaha! As if a forex firm that has been driven out of the United States for being a “scam” is going to properly “self-regulate” itself. This tells you about all you need to know about the quality of Belize regulation.
So what should traders take from all this? Common sense would dictate that traders avoid GCI. Their compliance history is poor and their current regulators in Belize clearly don’t give a damn what they do so long as they pay their bills on time. At the end of the day GCI is just another shark in the water. Here’s hoping someone harpoons them and sends them to the bottom of the ocean from whence they can never be dredged up again.
With all these bogus claims from small time brokers claiming they are regulated because they hold a “certificate” they managed to pull out of a cereal box it is hard to know what to believe these days when a firm states they are “licensed.”
And perhaps no firm straddles the line between licensed and unregulated more than a firm by the name of GCI Financial. A reader asked me to provide some background on GCI recently and after doing a quick Internet search I found myself once again swimming in the deepest, darkest, murkiest depths of the Forex Ocean in search of that most dangerous dorsal finned predator of all- the offshore FX boiler-room.
GCI appears to have been started back in the 1990’s and used to be a U.S. based company with its CEO, Mitch Vasquez, living in Wilton, CT. It didn’t take too many clicks of the mouse to discover that GCI had been busted by the CFTC under the headline “CFTC CRACKS DOWN ON FOREIGN CURRENCY SCAMS NATIONWIDE.”
CFTC Press Release 4611-02
The complaint itself charged GCI for violating the Commodity Exchange Act. In short, the CFTC was taking GCI to court because they had not registered with the NFA (Hello FXDD! This could someday happen to you!)
http://www.cftc.gov/files/enf/02orders/enfgci-order.pdf
Also cited in this lawsuit was Vazquez. In 2002, Vazquez and GCI settled the suit and as part of the settlement Vazquez paid a $100,000 fine and agreed to
Sounds pretty clear to me. Basically, Vazquez and GCI were expected to close their doors and get out of the FX business.
But apparently GCI didn’t see it that way. Instead, they submerged beneath the water and headed to Belize. Well at least their “State of the Art” dealing room fled to Belize. But Vazquez doesn’t appear to have gone anywhere as a FEC filing showed he contributed $2000 to George Bush’s Presidential Campaign in 2004 where he listed an address in New Canaan, CT.
MITCHELL VAZQUEZ Donations -- Huffington Post
Meanwhile in Switzerland (cue up Jaws music)…
According to the gossip on the bulletin boards Vazquez had apparently branched out into the notorious Swiss Market. Rumor has it that GCI and GFX (Forex.CH) are the same firm. This was news to me. But several people have stated that Vazquez is also a director at GFX and also points out that the websites of GCI and GFX are remarkably similar and also housed on the same servers?
Forums - GFX Group SA - anyone has experience?
GFX Group SA
GFX Group Reviews | GFX Group forex Ratings | gfxsa.com reviews and ratings by Forex Peace Army
Also, it appears that GFX has recently gotten into some trouble with the Swiss Government according to one trader who cited this (translation welcome if anyone speaks Francais):
Renseignements internet du Registre du Commerce
As for GCI, it claims registration in Belize and you can actually verify they are in fact licensed by the regulatory authorities there:
ABOUT IFSC - International Financial Services Commission
Strangely, GCI doesn’t provide this link on their website which would allow traders to verify this independently which I just did as the Savior is nothing if not fair and balanced.
The reason GCI may be quiet about their regulatory status with Belize officials is because the IFSC does not actually do much aside from collect fees and provide “guidelines” to businesses. In fact, they state on their own website:
ABOUT IFSC - International Financial Services Commission
Bwahahaha! As if a forex firm that has been driven out of the United States for being a “scam” is going to properly “self-regulate” itself. This tells you about all you need to know about the quality of Belize regulation.
So what should traders take from all this? Common sense would dictate that traders avoid GCI. Their compliance history is poor and their current regulators in Belize clearly don’t give a damn what they do so long as they pay their bills on time. At the end of the day GCI is just another shark in the water. Here’s hoping someone harpoons them and sends them to the bottom of the ocean from whence they can never be dredged up again.
[ Here’s hoping someone harpoons them and sends them to the bottom of the ocean from whence they can never be dredged up again.[/QUOTE]
here here!!
im going to open an account with oanda in the near future,how about the low down on them?from everythimg i gather they are a reputable firm???
here here!!
im going to open an account with oanda in the near future,how about the low down on them?from everythimg i gather they are a reputable firm???
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Should have no issues with those guys as far as I am aware mate.
ABN Amro have an interest, tie up.
ABN Amro have an interest, tie up.
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Oanda is top notch. Money should be safe there
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eToro: All Hat, No Cattle
This is going to be a post rife with Texas sized clichés. How can it not be with a company with a name like “eToro” that has a logo with a pair of bull horns jutting out of it?
First of all who are these guys? Well they are one the newest FX brokers in the market who are taking a very novel approach to currency trading. They also have ties to the online gambling rackets as their CTO is David Ring who was a key R&D leader at Israeli-based 888.com (a major online casino and poker operator) according to this feature article that came out last fall:
eToro Makes Forex Trade Child’s Play
But this Israeli firm’s ties go much deeper than to just an Internet gambling website (and please spare me the term “gaming.”) They also have connections to none other than Shimon Peres, the President of Israel. It appears Shimon Peres’ son, Chimi Peres, is one of eToro’s private investors:
Pitango Venture Capital - Nechemia (Chemi) J. Peres
So how is eToro standing out in the marketplace aside from their exotic resume? Well they have created the first forex video game. You have to see the screen shots to believe them:
http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/etoro_match.jpg
http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/etoro_marathon.jpg
But aside from the cute cartoon characters inhabiting its software (which led one trader to state eToro should rename itself “eTarded”) the truth is eToro is just shoveling the same old Bull at traders. What makes me say that? Well, when I asked them if they were regulated they gave me the ol’ Texas Two Step. Check out this chat transcript below:
eToro is an Israeli company with a Cyprus address and a British Virgin Islands Registration. Now what kind of business arrangement is that? That is about as unaccountable as you can get. When I asked their chat representative if they have a Cyprus SEC license (which they should have if they have an office in Cyprus and are soliciting customers from Cyrpus) the rep says “of course.”
When I point out that eToro is not listed as having a license at the Cyprus SEC website I’m directed to another company that supposedly has a license, retailfx.com, I find they don’t have a license either. At which point the customer service rep breaks down and blabbers about their arrangement with IFX.
Clearly eToro talks the regulatory talk but they don’t walk the regulatory walk.
So what about this link with IFX? Well it turns out that eToro can’t accept U.S. customers. Hmmm. That’s strange. Plenty of offshore forex brokers accept U.S. customers. Why not eToro? Instead, eToro has to rely on IFX who is apparently white labeling eToro’s Sony Playstation, er, forex trading software.
It’s pretty obvious why eToro can’t accept U.S. customers. It’s because they are nothing more than a gambling shop and online casinos outside the U.S. are not allowed to accept U.S. customers. eToro’s lawyers are obviously worried that Uncle Sam will come after them with a vengeance if they start soliciting customers (not to mention the MGM Grand, Powerball, Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed and Mike Huckabee.)
What does that tell you about the kind of dealing desk these guys are running? The firm is a straight up casino- they only make money if you lose money. It is market making on anabolic horse steroids. In short, it is every currency trader’s worst nightmare come true.
By the way I sent eToro an email asking for clarification on their regulation. Of course there was no reply. Lord somebody fence these guys in…
This is going to be a post rife with Texas sized clichés. How can it not be with a company with a name like “eToro” that has a logo with a pair of bull horns jutting out of it?
First of all who are these guys? Well they are one the newest FX brokers in the market who are taking a very novel approach to currency trading. They also have ties to the online gambling rackets as their CTO is David Ring who was a key R&D leader at Israeli-based 888.com (a major online casino and poker operator) according to this feature article that came out last fall:
eToro Makes Forex Trade Child’s Play
But this Israeli firm’s ties go much deeper than to just an Internet gambling website (and please spare me the term “gaming.”) They also have connections to none other than Shimon Peres, the President of Israel. It appears Shimon Peres’ son, Chimi Peres, is one of eToro’s private investors:
Pitango Venture Capital - Nechemia (Chemi) J. Peres
So how is eToro standing out in the marketplace aside from their exotic resume? Well they have created the first forex video game. You have to see the screen shots to believe them:
http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/etoro_match.jpg
http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/etoro_marathon.jpg
But aside from the cute cartoon characters inhabiting its software (which led one trader to state eToro should rename itself “eTarded”) the truth is eToro is just shoveling the same old Bull at traders. What makes me say that? Well, when I asked them if they were regulated they gave me the ol’ Texas Two Step. Check out this chat transcript below:
eToro is an Israeli company with a Cyprus address and a British Virgin Islands Registration. Now what kind of business arrangement is that? That is about as unaccountable as you can get. When I asked their chat representative if they have a Cyprus SEC license (which they should have if they have an office in Cyprus and are soliciting customers from Cyrpus) the rep says “of course.”
When I point out that eToro is not listed as having a license at the Cyprus SEC website I’m directed to another company that supposedly has a license, retailfx.com, I find they don’t have a license either. At which point the customer service rep breaks down and blabbers about their arrangement with IFX.
Clearly eToro talks the regulatory talk but they don’t walk the regulatory walk.
So what about this link with IFX? Well it turns out that eToro can’t accept U.S. customers. Hmmm. That’s strange. Plenty of offshore forex brokers accept U.S. customers. Why not eToro? Instead, eToro has to rely on IFX who is apparently white labeling eToro’s Sony Playstation, er, forex trading software.
It’s pretty obvious why eToro can’t accept U.S. customers. It’s because they are nothing more than a gambling shop and online casinos outside the U.S. are not allowed to accept U.S. customers. eToro’s lawyers are obviously worried that Uncle Sam will come after them with a vengeance if they start soliciting customers (not to mention the MGM Grand, Powerball, Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed and Mike Huckabee.)
What does that tell you about the kind of dealing desk these guys are running? The firm is a straight up casino- they only make money if you lose money. It is market making on anabolic horse steroids. In short, it is every currency trader’s worst nightmare come true.
By the way I sent eToro an email asking for clarification on their regulation. Of course there was no reply. Lord somebody fence these guys in…
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cheers,funny you should mention abn,im going to open an account with them this week!its the best option in the netherlands were i live.what do you mean by "tie up"?
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Along the lines of FXCM and DB , that sort of tie up , a financial interest if you will.
thanx,will look into it.
a quick google gave me this if anyone else is interested.
Forums - ABN AMRO launches Marketindex
http://www.abnamromarketindex.com/en/index.php5
gonna try the demo myself
Forums - ABN AMRO launches Marketindex
http://www.abnamromarketindex.com/en/index.php5
gonna try the demo myself
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New CFTC Numbers are out
Here are the latest adjusted net capital figuress for U.S. based forex brokers:
http://www.cftc.gov/stellent/groups/public/@financialdataforfcms/documents/file/fcmdata0308.pdf
Above $20 Million
Oanda $163,000,000
FXCM $87,000,000
GFT Forex $76,000,000
Gain Capital $73,000,000
Interbank FX $28,000,000
I Trade FX $27,000,000
Below $20 Million
PFG $19,000,000
FX Solutions $17,000,000
ODL $14,700,000
CMS $13,900,000
GFS Forex $11,000,000
IFX $10,600,000
Ikon $8,800,000
Alpari $8,800,000
CMC $8,300,000
Friedberg Mercantile $8,000,000
Forex Club $7,900,000
Hotspot $7,700,000
MB Trading $7,700,000
Easy Forex $7,200,000
Money Garden $6,600,000
Bacera $5,500,000
Advanced Markets $5,100,000
Here are the latest adjusted net capital figuress for U.S. based forex brokers:
http://www.cftc.gov/stellent/groups/public/@financialdataforfcms/documents/file/fcmdata0308.pdf
Above $20 Million
Oanda $163,000,000
FXCM $87,000,000
GFT Forex $76,000,000
Gain Capital $73,000,000
Interbank FX $28,000,000
I Trade FX $27,000,000
Below $20 Million
PFG $19,000,000
FX Solutions $17,000,000
ODL $14,700,000
CMS $13,900,000
GFS Forex $11,000,000
IFX $10,600,000
Ikon $8,800,000
Alpari $8,800,000
CMC $8,300,000
Friedberg Mercantile $8,000,000
Forex Club $7,900,000
Hotspot $7,700,000
MB Trading $7,700,000
Easy Forex $7,200,000
Money Garden $6,600,000
Bacera $5,500,000
Advanced Markets $5,100,000
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FXDD Bows to the Scholar!
Six weeks ago I reported on the danger of trading with FXDD because they were the only forex firm in the United States that had neglected to get a license from the NFA.
Forex Forum - FXstreet.com - View Single Post - NFA Forex Dealer Dead Pool
Well it appears FXDD took my criticism to heart.
All I can say is, it's about time! Count that as another victory for retail forex traders. The Scholar's work goes on...
Six weeks ago I reported on the danger of trading with FXDD because they were the only forex firm in the United States that had neglected to get a license from the NFA.
Forex Forum - FXstreet.com - View Single Post - NFA Forex Dealer Dead Pool
Well it appears FXDD took my criticism to heart.
All I can say is, it's about time! Count that as another victory for retail forex traders. The Scholar's work goes on...
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All Eyes on Washington
All Eyes on Washington
The big news this week is the farm bill which is close to passing the House and Senate. Inside that farm bill are provisions that would require U.S. forex dealers to have a minimum adjusted net capital of $20 million in addition to requirements that all introducing brokers be registered with the CFTC.
The big question is if Bush vetoes the bill will the Congress have enough votes to override his veto? According to this story the override vote will be a very close one:
Farm bill conferees lambaste press, administration
Of course, the forex provisions are a sideshow in this fight, which has become a fight primarily over farm subsidies. The $20 million capital requirement has been agreed upon by the powers that be. So now the question is not if, but when. A veto override means this capital requirement will be enforced by the end of the year for sure.
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All Eyes on Washington
The big news this week is the farm bill which is close to passing the House and Senate. Inside that farm bill are provisions that would require U.S. forex dealers to have a minimum adjusted net capital of $20 million in addition to requirements that all introducing brokers be registered with the CFTC.
The big question is if Bush vetoes the bill will the Congress have enough votes to override his veto? According to this story the override vote will be a very close one:
Farm bill conferees lambaste press, administration
Of course, the forex provisions are a sideshow in this fight, which has become a fight primarily over farm subsidies. The $20 million capital requirement has been agreed upon by the powers that be. So now the question is not if, but when. A veto override means this capital requirement will be enforced by the end of the year for sure.
Developing…
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Veto Override Likely
According to Republican Senator Charles Grassley the Congress will have the votes to override a Bush veto of the farm bill.
CongressDaily - Grassley: Congress Has Votes To Override A Farm Bill Veto
It looks more and more like this bill is going to become law. I’m trying to dig up the actual language of the bill to find out the time frames the industry is going to get in order to comply with the law. I’ll have more tomorrow.
According to Republican Senator Charles Grassley the Congress will have the votes to override a Bush veto of the farm bill.
CongressDaily - Grassley: Congress Has Votes To Override A Farm Bill Veto
It looks more and more like this bill is going to become law. I’m trying to dig up the actual language of the bill to find out the time frames the industry is going to get in order to comply with the law. I’ll have more tomorrow.
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House Passes Farm Bill
House passes election-year farm bill
By MARY CLARE JALONICK – 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House passed a $290 billion farm bill Wednesday with a strong veto-proof majority, offering more subsidies for farmers, food stamps for the poor and special projects that lawmakers can bring home to voters this election year.
The 318-106 vote for the five-year bill came despite President Bush's promised veto. He says the measure is too expensive and gives too much money to wealthy farmers.
About two-thirds of the bill would pay for nutrition programs such as food stamps and emergency food aid for the needy. An additional $40 billion is for farm subsidies while almost $30 billion would go to farmers to idle their land and to other environmental programs.
Senators planned to begin debating the bill later Wednesday. A rejection of a Bush veto may be even easier in the Senate, where farm states have greater representation than they do in the House. Congress has only overridden one veto, on a water projects bill, during Bush's two terms.
This measure is not perfect, said the chairman of the House Agriculture Committee, who believes it is balanced. "We've put a bill together that I think addresses what people are concerned about in this country," said Rep. Collin Peterson, D-Minn.
Republicans, however, criticized the mostly bipartisan and popular bill because home-state projects added in an election year. The bill includes tax breaks for Kentucky racehorse owners, extra help for farmers in Hawaii and Alaska, and dollars for salmon fishermen in the Pacific Northwest.
"This bill has been under consideration for a long, long time, and yet still we have earmarks that have been 'air dropped' into the legislation," said Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.
Ahead of the House veto, Bush made his objections clear, noting that married farmers who make up to $1.5 million still could collect subsidies under the new farm bill. "I believe doing so at a time of record farm income is irresponsible and jeopardizes America's support for necessary farm programs," Bush said.
House passes election-year farm bill
By MARY CLARE JALONICK – 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House passed a $290 billion farm bill Wednesday with a strong veto-proof majority, offering more subsidies for farmers, food stamps for the poor and special projects that lawmakers can bring home to voters this election year.
The 318-106 vote for the five-year bill came despite President Bush's promised veto. He says the measure is too expensive and gives too much money to wealthy farmers.
About two-thirds of the bill would pay for nutrition programs such as food stamps and emergency food aid for the needy. An additional $40 billion is for farm subsidies while almost $30 billion would go to farmers to idle their land and to other environmental programs.
Senators planned to begin debating the bill later Wednesday. A rejection of a Bush veto may be even easier in the Senate, where farm states have greater representation than they do in the House. Congress has only overridden one veto, on a water projects bill, during Bush's two terms.
This measure is not perfect, said the chairman of the House Agriculture Committee, who believes it is balanced. "We've put a bill together that I think addresses what people are concerned about in this country," said Rep. Collin Peterson, D-Minn.
Republicans, however, criticized the mostly bipartisan and popular bill because home-state projects added in an election year. The bill includes tax breaks for Kentucky racehorse owners, extra help for farmers in Hawaii and Alaska, and dollars for salmon fishermen in the Pacific Northwest.
"This bill has been under consideration for a long, long time, and yet still we have earmarks that have been 'air dropped' into the legislation," said Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.
Ahead of the House veto, Bush made his objections clear, noting that married farmers who make up to $1.5 million still could collect subsidies under the new farm bill. "I believe doing so at a time of record farm income is irresponsible and jeopardizes America's support for necessary farm programs," Bush said.
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Halloween: The Day the Dead Pool Rises from the Grave
Halloween: The Day the Dead Pool Rises from the Grave
Cue up the Michael Myers Halloween Theme…
I have just finished reading the Farm Bill language and it is clear that the Congress is not giving the industry much time to adapt to the incredible changes they are forcing upon retail forex dealers and introducing brokers.
The full language is now available at the House of Representatives website:
House Committee on Agriculture:
Title XIII (page 548) is the part of the bill that references the forex industry. Note the following language as it pertains to adjusted net capital requirements for forex dealers:
http://agriculture.house.gov/inside/Legislation/110/FB/Conf/CRlang.pdf
Assuming the bill passes by the end of June, that would give U.S. retail forex dealers until Halloween to increase their capital to $10 million. Then they would have until February 2009 to increase it to $15 million and then June of 2009 to reach the full $20 million. Halloween would also be the registration date for Introducing Brokers.
The bill also creates a separate registration category for Forex Dealers and gives the CFTC tremendous leeway in crafting rules governing this new financial services category. There is no telling what the CFTC might come up with (tough new Margin Requirements? Customer Funds Segregation? New Dealing Practice Rules?)
All in all the industry is in for a massive overhaul in the next 12 months. There are sure to be a lot of tricks and treats ahead. Stay Tuned.
Halloween: The Day the Dead Pool Rises from the Grave
Cue up the Michael Myers Halloween Theme…
I have just finished reading the Farm Bill language and it is clear that the Congress is not giving the industry much time to adapt to the incredible changes they are forcing upon retail forex dealers and introducing brokers.
The full language is now available at the House of Representatives website:
House Committee on Agriculture:
Title XIII (page 548) is the part of the bill that references the forex industry. Note the following language as it pertains to adjusted net capital requirements for forex dealers:
http://agriculture.house.gov/inside/Legislation/110/FB/Conf/CRlang.pdf
Assuming the bill passes by the end of June, that would give U.S. retail forex dealers until Halloween to increase their capital to $10 million. Then they would have until February 2009 to increase it to $15 million and then June of 2009 to reach the full $20 million. Halloween would also be the registration date for Introducing Brokers.
The bill also creates a separate registration category for Forex Dealers and gives the CFTC tremendous leeway in crafting rules governing this new financial services category. There is no telling what the CFTC might come up with (tough new Margin Requirements? Customer Funds Segregation? New Dealing Practice Rules?)
All in all the industry is in for a massive overhaul in the next 12 months. There are sure to be a lot of tricks and treats ahead. Stay Tuned.
