Kunal said:Both Alexander Elder books are good, .....
Kiwi said:Zenda,
Good advice re the equis material.
I am curious why one would choose Covell's book. Here is a guy who failed as a turtle then spent the rest of his life selling "turtle course" to potential traders at rip off prices. Those who took them tell of bad support and a guy who didnt understand his material --- but had great marketing. When Curtis came out and made the material free he publishes his book.
Kiwi
sp1 said:This thread is brilliant. I am Smiling at the screen though you cant see it. I want to thank You all that have helped in your own way as a microcosim of society capitalisum in fact. Soccy and all the others members here who know. You all should know that various coins have dropped and im on my way... The journey is far from over but progress is in jumps following consolidations and efort. Thut the underlying trend is still ...In the way beneficial to me.. Thanks.
And the various factions of the great majority. I thank you too for you continue to repoduce the bahavious and reasoning on these threads as those you represent in the market shall sustain me. Thanks.
This may be a false dawn but testing results are on track. My testing sofar is on Yahoo delayed 5 min bars. But when I get the real time stuff I will hope to start a no indicators type thread to learn from your good selves more and demonstrate to other newbies that as socrates said "you owe it to yourself to try" is the way to go.
Thanks for the PM soccy, Brauchs antics on this thread to amplify 1 of his edges is just one of the family of angles you were getting at I do thinck... Wow and it was all under my nose. Pride and predejuice indeed......People people people people people its ALL ABOUT YOU!!!! There are plenty of leads now you get grafting....like Socrates said...grafters evolove methods.
Thank you ALL.
I disagree with you on Alchemy of Finance. It is very tongue in cheek. Interesting, but very circumspect.Baruch said:Antics?! No, classics. There is a reason why the Darvas and Livermore etc. books are classics. Because they are excellent books from excellent traders. That's why. Read them - and learn from them.
PS. You should also read the George Soros' books. They are not funny to read, but you learn a lot. In one of them, Alchemy of Finance, you can follow his trading diary from a whole year.
Baruch said:Antics?! No, classics. There is a reason why the Darvas and Livermore etc. books are classics. Because they are excellent books from excellent traders. That's why. Read them - and learn from them.
PS. You should also read the George Soros' books. They are not funny to read, but you learn a lot. In one of them, Alchemy of Finance, you can follow his trading diary from a whole year.
SOCRATES said:I
What you have to do with all of this is to open out your heart, and fall in love with the topic.
SOCRATES said:I
you embrace the topic because you love it and are not fighting it, then it begins not to bite back at you and opens itself for you to understand it. But you, and only you can do this.
SOCRATES said:I
You must not be opinionated and have preconceived notions, or try to force, because if you do that and are not open minded and make yourself available, it will master you before you can master it.
I hope and expect that that helps you.
Bigbusiness said:Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, about Jesse Livermore, is probably the best book about trading I have read but I thought there was as much to learn from his mistakes as there was to learn from how he made money. I am not sure why he is held in such high esteem, as he lost more money than most traders could ever make. He made and lost a fortune twice. So why is he an excellent trader?
I am referring to self mastery, because mastery of self has to be achieved before anything else. I am familiar with problems involving distractions, therefore you should avoid them at all cost and concentrate on what is relevant, but within a framework of self governance of the highest order, which has to be self generated of course, as no one is going to do it for you.sp1 said:Please explain what you mean by "this" in the above sentence, on the second point above dont mention it to my wife she particularly hates this light saving back and forth business. If by "topic" do you mean trading or competitive pursuit of self interest if you meant any thing other please explain. As indeed I may or may not love, depending on the bounds of the "topic". Subject to this I shall consider where i stand with the following
What I mean by "this"is that the world of trading is an entire universe, and more to the point, it is a different universe to that which people normally inhabit. In the world of trading all the rules that apply in ordinary life do not apply here, different rules impose their requirements to enable participants to become successful. Therefore what I mean by "this" is with regard to everything to do with trading and not bits people are apt to like in favour of bits they are apt to not like. Because the world of trading is a Gestalt, which is a German word that means something that is greater in total than the sum of its parts, then you have to think of trading as a Gestalt and embrace all of it, instead of picking here and there for bits you like and ignoring the bits you don't like, because that is a disaster.
Are you referring to the development of price action or my view on the Structures of the market? I admit it is the ascending planks that are the most obscured to me. Any leads to the blue print??
It is not normal for you to expect your ideas to help me. You are very familiar with my transmutation problems...I often get the wrong end of the stick.
Many thanks Soc. By the way if this is coming from the Uncommon Dissent book post, that was in reply to Frugi request for non trading book.
Or If you think such a stance is in conflict to my progress please expand on this interesting area.
Thanks and Regards
Bigbusiness said:Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, about Jesse Livermore, is probably the best book about trading I have read but I thought there was as much to learn from his mistakes as there was to learn from how he made money. I am not sure why he is held in such high esteem, as he lost more money than most traders could ever make. He made and lost a fortune twice. So why is he an excellent trader?
Zenda said:No 3 A-Z of Tech Analysis is free online from www.equis.com (save a few bob)
My Choices
Trend following by Covell
Short Term Trading - Toni Turner
Rem. of a Stock Operator (1923) Edwin Le Fevre (lousy speller me!)
JillyB said:My choices are:
1. Short Term Trading by Toni Turner (my first ever trading book - got me started in this)
2. Japanese Candlestick Charting Techniques by Steve Nison (a must)
3. Tools and Tips for the Master Day Trader by Velez & Capra (half the book is devoted to the
pyscology of trading and I found this invaluable)
Just searched for Reminiscences of a Stock Operator in google, with the intention of buying a copy, the fourth result on page one was this....
http://stockvision.org/books/Edwin_Lefevre-Reminiscences_of_a_Stock_Operator-EN.pdf