It is all a Fugazsy

[Fugazsy]

went short with my 1st trade with a bear flag, price passed a previous swing (no on the chart), but stalled (BOF) formed and H$S and I reversed closing the first trade with -3.8 (initial 5), second trade +10.

 

[Fugazsy]

now I have deleted all my line and I am trying to make sense of all of it, for what I understand there is always a battle going on at any level and any TF, in some is not worth getting in, but I believe in some it is, more I read more I learn.....I also have to unlearn a lot to be able to learn

 

[Fugazsy]

First trade of a day.

Prices PB to the major TL, forms a reversal wedge, risk 5, made 10. SL was trailed after 5 pips gain, not always a good idea but it is other times....

 

[Fugazsy]

My missed trade of the day, price broke the previous swing high after broking the major DTL (not showed),
formed asymmetric triangle and was screaming "come to get some money you foul". I did not and I remain a foul.

Why? because I was not focus enough to follow the money and because I tend to be very conservative when I have a winning trade in the bag.....but I am working on it.....I can still feel some fear of losing trades....

 

[MajorMagnuM]

I like to post a guide of a trader I respect a lot, just food for thought:

Why guidelines and not rules? Because there are no rules.
1 . Everything that you see is in a gray fog. Nothing is perfectly clear. Close
is close enough. If something looks like a reliable pattern, it will likely
trade like a reliable pattern.
2. Every bar is a signal bar for both directions and the market can begin
a trend up or down on the next bar. Be open to all possibilities and
when the surprise happens, don't question or deny it. Just read it and
trade it.
3. Everything makes sense. If you know how to read price action, nothing
will surprise you because you will understand what the market is
doing. Beginners can see it on a printout at the end of the day. The goal
is to learn how to read fast enough so that you can understand what is
happening real time.
4. Simply understanding price action is not enough to make you profitable.
You must learn how to take the best trades and follow your
rules.
5. Trading is a job, and if you expect to make serious money, you need
a business plan, just as you would have with any other business, and
you must follow your plan. The plan can be simple, such as only taking
two or three types of setups off a single 5-minute chart, scalping half
and swinging the other half with a breakeven stop. However, you must
follow your plan. The profit margin is tiny in this business so even a
couple lapses in discipline a day can keep you in the red.
6. Don't tum the market into a casino, because that kind of math is relentless
and unstoppable and will destroy you. Many strategies work
often enough to make you believe that you will eventually be able to
make a living off of them, but the math is against you. Trading off the
I-minute chart is the classic example. You win often enough to believe
that you will eventually hone your skills to the point that you will make
a fortune. The reality is that many of the best trades happen too fast to
catch and you will be left picking among the less profitable ones and
make less than you would off the 5-minute, if you make anything at all.
7. There are no reliable Countertrend patterns, so never trade Countertrend
unless there first has been a break of a significant trendline.
And even then, first look for a With Trend trade that should lead to a
test of the old trend's extreme. If the market once again reverses near
the old extreme, then you should be entering in the direction of the
new trend.
8. All patterns fail, and the failures often fail, but a failed failure is a second
entry in the original direction and has a high probability of success.
9. When you see that one side is suddenly trapped, the reliability of a
scalp in the opposite dire"Ction goes up. Trapped traders will be forced
out as you are getting in, and they will likely wait for more price action
before entering again in their original direction, so the only traders left
will be in your direction.
1 0 . Seeing traders getting trapped out of a trade on a stop run is as reliable
a signal as seeing them getting trapped in a trade. If the market suddenly
runs stops and then resumes its trend, this is a reliable setup for
at least a scalper's profit.
1 1 . Many beginners want excitement and tend to overtrade. Many great
traders find trading to be lonely and boring, but very profitable.
1 2 . Simple is better. You don't need indicators, and you should only look at
one chart. If you can't make money off a single chart with no indicators,
adding more things to analyze will only make it more difficult. Also,
only trade the very best setups until you are consistently profitable.
1 3. Decide if this is a hobby or a job. If it is a hobby, find another one
because this one will be too expensive and it is dangerously addictive.
All great traders are likely trading addicts, but most trading addicts are
or will likely end up broke.
1 4. If you can't juggle one ball, don't try to juggle two or three. If you
are not yet making money, start with one chart, one market, one
time frame (the 5-minute), and one concept (price action and not
indicators).
1 5. Begin trading using a 5-minute chart and entering on a stop. Take some
or all off on a limit order at a profit target, and then move the protective
stop to breakeven on any remaining contracts.
1 6. Beginners should consider swing trading stocks instead of scalping
or swinging Eminis because stock charts are usually easier to read
and often trend well. The Eminis or bond futures become important
when your trading volume gets too large to allow for good fills in
stocks.
t 7. When starting out, you should consider trading the SPY instead of the
Emini. One Emini is identical to 500 SPY, and trading 300 to 500 SPY
would allow you to scale out as you swing part of your trade, yet not
incur much risk. Once you reach 1,000 to 1 ,500 SPY, if you are thinking
that you will continue to increase your position size, then switch to the
Emini. At that size, you can scale out of the Emini and you can increase
your position size tremendously without slippage being a significant
issue.
t 8. If you find that you did not take a couple Emini trades in a row and
they worked, you are likely trading too large a position size. Switch to
trading 100 to 300 shares of SPY and swing for at least 20 to 50 cents.
Even though you won't get rich, at least you will make some money
and build your confidence.
t 9. Buy low, sell high, except in a clear and strong trend (see chapter on
trends). In a bull trend, buy High 2 setups even if they are at the high of
the day, and in a bear, sell Low 2s. However, the market is in a trading
range for the vast majority of the time. For example, if the market has
been going up for a few bars and there is now a buy signal near the top
of this leg up, ask yourself if you believe that the market is in one of
the established clear and strong bull trend patterns described in this
book. If you cannot convince yourself that it is, don't buy high, even if
the momentum looks great, since the odds are great that you will be
trapped.
20. Every segment of every chart commonly can be classified as more than
one pattern, and almost always the patterns will point in the same direction.
All you have to see is just one to place a trade. For example,
a Failed Final Bear Flag long can also be a Double Bottom Bull Flag,
and this might also be a Bull Spike and Trading Range Reversal that
reversed up after overshooting a trend channel line and a larger bull
trend line, and it can progress into a Spike and Channel Bull. If you
recognize any of these, you can place a trade even if you do not see all
of the others.
2 t . Good fill, bad trade. Always be suspicious if the market lets you in or
out at a price that is better than you anticipated, but if the setup is
good, take it. The corollary of bad fill, good trade is not as reliable.
22. Trends are always forming pullbacks that look like terrible entries but
are profitable and reversals that look good but are losers. Most trend
pullbacks follow just enough of a climax to make traders wonder if
the trend has ended and trap traders out of entering on the pullback.
Also, the trend reversals are just good enough to attract and trap Countertrend
traders. If you trade Countertrend, you are gambling, and although
you will often win and have fun, the math is against you, and
you will slowly but surely go broke. Countertrend setups in strong
trends almost always fail and become great With Trend setups, especially
on the 1 minute chart.
2 3 . The easiest time to make money is in the first 90 minutes, and some of
the easiest trades to spot are failed breakouts and breakout pullbacks
of patterns from the prior day. Beginners should avoid trading in the
middle of the day and in the middle of the day's range.
2 4 . When you are about to take any trade, always ask yourself if the setup
is one of the best of the day. Is this the one that the institutions have
been waiting for all day? If the answer is "no" and you are not a consistently
profitable trader, then you should not take the trade either. If
you have two consecutive losers within 15-minutes or so, ask yourself
if those were trades that the institutions have been waiting hours to
take. If the answer is no, you are overtrading, and you need to become
more patient.
2 5 . Those who talk don't know and those who know don't talk. Don't
watch TV or read any news. The traders who are making the most
money trading are too busy to be on TV. Ask yourself, if you are netting
even just two points in the Emini a day on large positions, do you
really want to bother with going on TV? So why are you listening for
trading ideas from someone who can't even make a couple points a
day? Trading is a business, not a religion, so don't look for a trading
savior.
26. Every bar and every series of bars is either a trend or a trading range.
Pick one. Throughout the day and especially around 8:30 A . M . PST, you
need to be deciding whether or not the day resembles any trend pattern
described in this book. If it does and you are looking to take any
trade, you must take every With Trend trade. Never consider taking
a Countertrend trade if you haven't been taking all of the With Trend
trades.
2 7 . The best signal bars are trend bars in the direction of your trade. Doji
bars are one bar trading ranges and therefore terrible signal bars. You
will lose if you buy above a trading range in a bear or sell below one in
a bull.
28. You will not make consistent money until you stop trading Countertrend
scalps. You will win often enough to keep you trying to
improve your technique, but over time your account will slowly
disappear.
29. You will not make money until you start trading With Trend pullbacks.
30. You will not make money trading reversals until you wait for a break
of a significant trendline and then for a strong reversal bar on a test of
the trend's extreme.
3 1 . You will not make money unless you know what you are doing. Print
out the 5-minute Emini chart every day (and stock charts, if you trade
stocks) and write on the chart every setup that you see. When you see
several price action features, write them all on the chart. Do this every
day for years until you can look at any part of any chart and instantly
understand what is happening.
32. If you lost on two or three trades in a row or if you lost money on the
day, you are overtrading and not being patient. You might be fooling
yourself and looking for "low risk" early entries on the 1- or 3- minute
charts, or you are trading Countertrend, or you are trading in Barb
Wire. Bad habits always erase more than your winnings. You are on
the path to a blown account, even though you might be moving slowly
in that direction. But you will eventually get there.
33. You will not make money long term until you know enough about your
personality to find a trading style that is compatible. You need to be
able to follow your rules comfortably, allowing you to enter and exit
trades with minimal or no uncertainty or anxiety. Once you have mastered
a method of trading, if you feel stress while trading, then either
you haven't yet found your style or yourself.
34. Always look for two legs. Also, when the market tries to do something
twice and fails both times, that is a reliable signal that it will likely
succeed in doing the opposite.
35. Never cherry pick because you will invariably pick enough rotten cherries
to end up a loser. Either swing trade and look to take only the best
two or three of the best setups of the day, or scalp and take every valid
setup. That, however, is the more difficult alternative and is only for
people with very unusual personalities (even more unusual than the
rest of us traders!).
36. Beginners should only take the best trades and either scalp or swing.
It is difficult to watch a screen for two or three hours at a time and not
place a trade, but this is the best way for beginners to make money. If
your overriding goal is to make money, this is what you must do. If you
do not, then you have other goals that are interfering with what should
really be your only goal.
37. Discipline is the single most important characteristic of winning
traders. Trading is easy to understand but difficult to do. It is very
difficult to follow simple rules, and even occasional self-indulgences
can be the difference between success and failure. Everyone can be
as mentally tough as Tiger Woods for one shot, but few can be that
tough for an entire round, and then be that way for a round every day
of their lives. Everyone knows what mental toughness and discipline
are, and everyone is mentally tough and disciplined in some activities
every day, but few truly appreciate just how extreme and unrelenting
you have to be to be a great trader. Develop the discipline to take only
the best trades.
38. The second-most-important trait of great traders is the ability to do
nothing for hours at a time. Don't succumb to boredom and let it convince
you that it's been too long since the last trade.
39. Work on increasing your position size rather than on the number of
trades or the variety of setups that you use. You only need to make one
point in the Eminis a day to do well (100 contracts at 1 point a day is
seven figures a year).

good food for thought. ty

 

[Fugazsy]

7 trading days, one losing day, 16 trades, 50% wins, RR 1:2, expectancy a bit less than half of my risk and PF is 1.80, max trades in a day 5, minimum 1, my session is about four hours from Frankfurt open, only EU.

 

[Fugazsy]

My only trade of the day: Clearly in range and I shorted the new extreme, the previous push up was quite strong and normally I would wait for a second entry, but the first entry had a strong reversal, went in 1 pip below it and doubled my risk.

In hindsight I missed two longs: The first one a clear false BO and a BO in the other direction with a strong bull trend bar (was screaming that money was available), why I did not take it? Lack of focus and bias...which is not good.

The second one a not very convincing double bottom bull flag but still a doable one, why not convincing? There was a bit of range showing....but the bear bar (signal bar) that made the pattern (indicated) was only 5.3 pips wide, a buy one pip above it and then trailing the SL 1 pip below the trigger bar would have been a nimble trade to gain double of the risk.

 

[Fugazsy]

You guys if you like to partecipate and discuss trades on this thread you are welcome, I think communicating and sharing with decent people is all good, it does not matter at what level you are in, we are all leaning and the moment we think we do not need it anymore we are looking for trouble.

 

[neil]

Short term trades

Took only one trade yesterday (8), to be honest not sure what I was thinking of, I shorted into the range and at the bottom (-6 pips)....... maybe I know what happened to me, I got influenced by what I read a couple day before.....anyway...long story...serves as a lesson.

Instead I should have taken:
(1) as pull back to the ema.
and (2) as a PB to the ema, magnet line, round number and a pin bar (hello? anybody there?)
This where my sessions finishes.

Later on
(3) bear flag break.
(4) two legs to the ema.
(5) PB to the ema, PB to ML and pin bar, she did get back hitting the nose on the RN forming a double top flag and continued downwards.
(6) PB to the ML, just below the round number.

Just seen this.
Reminds me of this chaps style of trading which might interest you:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=163972

 

[Fugazsy]

Just seen this.
Reminds me of this chaps style of trading which might interest you:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=163972

Neil

Thank you I will look at it a bit later, need to rush and I will get back to you.

 

[Fugazsy]

Just seen this.
Reminds me of this chaps style of trading which might interest you:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=163972

I had a brief look at it, seems interesting. I think if discipline is keep at bay, good money can be made, the importance of knowing when trading is in the range and stay out of it will make a huge difference, trading is very addictive and the impulse to pull the trigger when there is no need for it is big.....anyway that is another story....

If I may say, maybe by placing a SL above/below the pin bar will not be a great idea depending of the size of the bar for at least a good RR of 1:2, in that case an entry of one pip plus spread as a stop order to confirm continuation below/above the signal bar with a SL of about 5 pips could be an idea or you can scale down to a smaller TF and place the SL above/below the bar that broke the high/low of the 5m bar. (signal bar)

Of course how the bar ends (shaved or not) needs also to be taken in consideration as the direction of the least resistance.

In the case of the RSI for divergence, personally I would not go that way, indicators are only a consequence of price and a step further and they can indicate signals that are not there. But still I would take trades with a Pin Bar in the direction of the opposite trend by the use of reversal patterns, especially wedge reversals and 3 pushes up/down, of course I would trail my SL very quickly.

Also I would not take a pin bar entry just because of the pin bar, a pin bar in a strong trend does not mean necessary reversal, but just a trap, a second entry will be needed.....

 

[neil]

I had a brief look at it, seems interesting. I think if discipline is keep at bay, good money can be made, the importance of knowing when trading is in the range and stay out of it will make a huge difference, trading is very addictive and the impulse to pull the trigger when there is no need for it is big.....anyway that is another story....

If I may say, maybe by placing a SL above/below the pin bar will not be a great idea depending of the size of the bar for at least a good RR of 1:2, in that case an entry of one pip plus spread as a stop order to confirm continuation below/above the signal bar with a SL of about 5 pips could be an idea or you can scale down to a smaller TF and place the SL above/below the bar that broke the high/low of the 5m bar. (signal bar)

Of course how the bar ends (shaved or not) needs also to be taken in consideration as the direction of the least resistance.

In the case of the RSI for divergence, personally I would not go that way, indicators are only a consequence of price and a step further and they can indicate signals that are not there. But still I would take trades with a Pin Bar in the direction of the opposite trend by the use of reversal patterns, especially wedge reversals and 3 pushes up/down, of course I would trail my SL very quickly.

Also I would not take a pin bar entry just because of the pin bar, a pin bar in a strong trend does not mean necessary reversal, but just a trap, a second entry will be needed.....

Each to their own. I trade this way successfully, with my own touches. You do not take an entry because it is a Pin Bar -that way you lose more often than not. Many other things have to be taken into consideration. There are other reversal patterns and price structure such as support etc to be taken into account when looking at the BIGGER picture.
You would have to spend weeks reading the thread and reading like approaches plus testing before you come close to understanding the material in the post. Regard it as just the beginning. If interested then spend a few weeks looking at it and testing. If the approach or subject does not inspire you to delve deeper I will understand. There is no need to get back to me since I offer the reading material simply for your perusal -if you decide to study it in depth then fine. If it does not appeal to you, that, also, is fine. Good luck with whatever you do.
Regards
Neil

 

[Fugazsy]

Second trade of the day, strong trend down, I was waiting for a PB but was not coming.

Patience payed at the end, PB to the ema, target reached.

My first trade was a loss of 3 pips, initially 5 pips then 3, just before the break, my direction was right but she went into range.

 

[Fugazsy]

Each to their own. I trade this way successfully, with my own touches. You do not take an entry because it is a Pin Bar -that way you lose more often than not. Many other things have to be taken into consideration. There are other reversal patterns and price structure such as support etc to be taken into account when looking at the BIGGER picture.
You would have to spend weeks reading the thread and reading like approaches plus testing before you come close to understanding the material in the post. Regard it as just the beginning. If interested then spend a few weeks looking at it and testing. If the approach or subject does not inspire you to delve deeper I will understand. There is no need to get back to me since I offer the reading material simply for your perusal -if you decide to study it in depth then fine. If it does not appeal to you, that, also, is fine. Good luck with whatever you do.
Regards
Neil

I only gave you my perception..... I have my own way of trading.....I have not time how others method....but thank you anyway...

 

[be-positive]

fugs in around 16/17 area (above trade ???)

 

[Fugazsy]

fugs in around 16/17 area (above trade ???)

lol, I miss you too.

 

[Fugazsy]

I will not be considering going long this before the break of the TL and even after that I would only consider short for a test of the recent low first and then maybe...

 

[be-positive]

lol, I miss you too.

I am blshing now , my mother told me to watch out for a

drinker

 

[Fugazsy]

I am blshing now , my mother told me to watch out for a

drinker

Salute......by the way, I think you need a real beer....:innocent:

 

[Fugazsy]

done for the day, my goal is to make 5 pips a day, everyday, someday I make 30-40, but that is not the rule, actually it happened only a few times, I have to make 4 winning trades without a loss to make 40 pips.....My goal is to increase volume not pips gain.

I only trade 4 hours from Franky open and I am clued to the screen all this time and to be honest I would not trade more than that..... I love trading and I want to keep this way...ta