IMHO, it takes at least 5 years of tossing darts before a few actually land in the profitable zone often enough to make a living. You don't learn to trade profitably on a consistent level by reading books and watching dvd's. You end up paying $60 for a dvd and $600 implementing that magic whatever. Paper trading does nothing more than create bad habits that will take years to deprogram. Aftrer you have wasted your nestegg and throw your hands up in dispair, should you decide to continue on your path, you will find someon profitable whose brain you will pick. It usually takes about 5 years to figure that out. Just a summary from my own experience combined with the thoughts of many others. If you are the exception to the case, well, God Bless.