How could the BBC improve ?

[hhiusa]

Does without those dreadful adverts too.

Let rubbishy game shows and soaps go to ITV imho. They can dumb even further down the already dumb there. I expect political parties have already thought of commissioning politically oriented shows or soon will.

Three cheers for state run media.

 

[Pat494]

Three cheers for state run media.

Most state run media machines are run by dictators and 1 party states.
We like the Beeb because it tries to fairly put both sides of the case, not just the Governments' and let the people decide in elections.

The trouble with commercial stations is that to make a profit they have to allow adverts, some of which are not necessarily telling the whole truth. No wonder the US has a mental health problem. About half of under 10 year olds there believe that Batman/Superman etc. are real !!

 

[hhiusa]

Most state run media machines are run by dictators and 1 party states.
We like the Beeb because it tries to fairly put both sides of the case, not just the Governments' and let the people decide in elections.

The trouble with commercial stations is that to make a profit they have to allow adverts, some of which are not necessarily telling the whole truth. No wonder the US has a mental health problem. About half of under 10 year olds there believe that Batman/Superman etc. are real !!

You just stated the problem is that they make a profit. That is the whole purpose of the business. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely. did you forget that one. translation: you're a communist or at the very least 100% socialist.

 

[tomorton]

You just stated the problem is that they make a profit. That is the whole purpose of the business. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely. did you forget that one. translation: you're a communist or at the very least 100% socialist.

No, this is not right. One can express a thought that aligns with socialist thinking on 1 specific subject without being a socialist as far as the other 99 are concerned. Your confrontational response endangers your own very good point.

The BBC is a state apparatus but in the UK and much of the rest of the world we have been over-impressed by its self-stated morally liberal position and disinterested news reporting into thinking it is independent. This is the propaganda master-stoke of all history.

 

[Oscar Reed]

Long live the BBC and ABC, SBS and Triple J in Australia.

Maybe it's wrong for some people with state owned media.

But if it goes I will be the loser and end up getting more commercial crap TV and radio.

Plus less TV and radio time with more ads.

 

[hhiusa]

No, this is not right. One can express a thought that aligns with socialist thinking on 1 specific subject without being a socialist as far as the other 99 are concerned. Your confrontational response endangers your own very good point.

The BBC is a state apparatus but in the UK and much of the rest of the world we have been over-impressed by its self-stated morally liberal position and disinterested news reporting into thinking it is independent. This is the propaganda master-stoke of all history.

You cannot have contradictory views. Well, I guess you could, but it would be ignorant. If someone says that it is a problem to make a profit, then that is a symptom of an even greater issue. You cannot hold that belief and not be a socialist. You could say that it is a problem that they make too much money. I would still disagree with that statement. You do not have socialist thinking here and capitalism there. Capitalism is at odds with socialism. Their principles are diametrically opposed. It is irrational to hold both beliefs simultaneously. Republicans as a political movement, not necessarily the people, are against raising taxes. That is a cornerstone of the ideology. People that believe we should not raise taxes will, as a result, vote Republican. You cannot be for greater spending in social welfare programs and be against raising taxes. Where will the money come from? That one statement sheds light on his other views. Don't complain when you quack like a duck, that people call you a duck. While it may be true that you are not one, you are still acting like one.

The main point being that you do not just hold one socialist idea, without holding all the other ideas that come with it that are required to make it a rational, cohesive vision.

 

[Pat494]

Back in the golden days such occupations as nursing, co-op, social work, the Beeb etc. used to staffed by dedicated people with a calling NOT headed up by overpaid, money grubbing, nasties as at present.

 

[Pat494]

You cannot have contradictory views. Well, I guess you could, but it would be ignorant. If someone says that it is a problem to make a profit, then that is a symptom of an even greater issue. You cannot hold that belief and not be a socialist. You could say that it is a problem that they make too much money. I would still disagree with that statement. You do not have socialist thinking here and capitalism there. Capitalism is at odds with socialism. Their principles are diametrically opposed. It is irrational to hold both beliefs simultaneously. Republicans as a political movement, not necessarily the people, are against raising taxes. That is a cornerstone of the ideology. People that believe we should not raise taxes will, as a result, vote Republican. You cannot be for greater spending in social welfare programs and be against raising taxes. Where will the money come from? That one statement sheds light on his other views. Don't complain when you quack like a duck, that people call you a duck. While it may be true that you are not one, you are still acting like one.

The main point being that you do not just hold one socialist idea, without holding all the other ideas that come with it that are required to make it a rational, cohesive vision.

Both have their good and bad points. Beware imho extremism of any political/religious philosophy. Much better they muddle along in the middle ground.

 

[Pat494]

But what's broadcasting entertainment and news got to do with a state in which freedom of speech and the press is protected by law? Why does the state have to control the whole apparatus when it can already regulate the activities?

Surely this is as much an abuse of power as would the the nationalisation of chocolate bar factories?

It seems to me you either have state or money bias. Well no one is going to waste cash on making a neutral service so we have the best alternative of the state run with neutral bias.

 

[tomorton]

You cannot have contradictory views. Well, I guess you could, but it would be ignorant. If someone says that it is a problem to make a profit, then that is a symptom of an even greater issue. You cannot hold that belief and not be a socialist. You could say that it is a problem that they make too much money. I would still disagree with that statement. You do not have socialist thinking here and capitalism there. Capitalism is at odds with socialism. Their principles are diametrically opposed. It is irrational to hold both beliefs simultaneously. Republicans as a political movement, not necessarily the people, are against raising taxes. That is a cornerstone of the ideology. People that believe we should not raise taxes will, as a result, vote Republican. You cannot be for greater spending in social welfare programs and be against raising taxes. Where will the money come from? That one statement sheds light on his other views. Don't complain when you quack like a duck, that people call you a duck. While it may be true that you are not one, you are still acting like one.

The main point being that you do not just hold one socialist idea, without holding all the other ideas that come with it that are required to make it a rational, cohesive vision.

Actually, I can and I do, and you can and I am sure you do.

Are you really saying that you personally agree with every single policy and then every single decision of your own selected political party? Even the elected representatives who are members in that party can't agree with everything from central office. But that doesn't make them members of the most opposed other faction.

 

[tomorton]

It seems to me you either have state or money bias. Well no one is going to waste cash on making a neutral service so we have the best alternative of the state run with neutral bias.

I am all for a neutral bias and freedom of expression of the media. But it doesn't demand the state to own the media in order to guarantee this.

After all, I am all for hygienic production of food in my favourite restaurant, and an interesting selection of dishes on the menu, but the government doesn't need to own the Oriental City ("Chinese cuisine offered is of the highest quality featuring a range of tasty dishes from the Canton, Peking and Szechuan regions") in order to ensure this.

 

[hhiusa]

Actually, I can and I do, and you can and I am sure you do.

Are you really saying that you personally agree with every single policy and then every single decision of your own selected political party? Even the elected representatives who are members in that party can't agree with everything from central office. But that doesn't make them members of the most opposed other faction.

I never said I agree with every single policy decision, nor would I have to. The main point being that you do not just hold one socialist idea, without holding all the other ideas that come with it that are required to make it a rational, cohesive vision. I stated this before. I did not mean every single decision. There are certain views that go hand in hand with other views. People make caveats to plug in the illogical holes. Capitalism is about free market and individual rights. Socialism is the opposite and about collective rights. You cannot be for a free market and think profit is a problem. Profit is a necessary ingredient in a free market.

 

[tomorton]

You're a fluent writer but I don't think we're getting anywhere.

 

[tar]

You're a fluent writer but I don't think we're getting anywhere.

Multi nic .

 

[Dick Lexic]

How could the BBC improve ?

It should refuse to be gagged 🙂

 

[Atilla]

BBC is part and parcel of the HM Government and Intelligence Services.

I think it does a brilliant job and the license fee is a small cost to pay for outstanding public and state service.

No institution; public or private is perfect. The BBC is a great heritage and may it long continue in check as it is give or take some errors.


How can it be improved? I'm not sure but I watch it more than any other station and am happy with it as it is. 🙂

Love BBC online too, along with iPlayer and services over the web.


I don't always agree with what it puts out BUT compared to Murdoch's or other so called independent or private news providers it is a Global leader which should be maintained and supported. 👍

 

[hhiusa]

BBC is part and parcel of the HM Government and Intelligence Services.

I think it does a brilliant job and the license fee is a small cost to pay for outstanding public and state service.

No institution; public or private is perfect. The BBC is a great heritage and may it long continue in check as it is give or take some errors.


How can it be improved? I'm not sure but I watch it more than any other station and am happy with it as it is. 🙂

Love BBC online too, along with iPlayer and services over the web.


I don't always agree with what it puts out BUT compared to Murdoch's or other so called independent or private news providers it is a Global leader which should be maintained and supported. 👍

Well, that is your prerogative as a socialist.

 

[Pat494]

About time the politicians had a good look at the BBC's payouts. This used to be an honourable profession that many worked hard for and for an average salary. Now that the people at the top of this public corporation are paying out mega salaries to fairly average performers it should be shamed into paying less to the few in with the bosses and spread it wider to encourage talent.

The quality I might add of the Beeb has seriously declined over the last 20 years. They have to rely on comedy repeats The modern comedians are so unfunny !! Aaaaah yukky.

Woe the day it becomes the mouthpiece of the current Govt.