Do you have an "edge" in your trading?

Edge x Application of edge = $
I apply my edge and I WIN!
And I don't use a crystal ball.
Nor could my edge, money management or risk management be construed as being akin to a crystal ball.

I am not sure why you are playing devil's advocate.

you said one could do very well from recoognizing supports and resistances ,
but you failed to say that also one can do very poorly from from technical analysis like the 95% of losers that use your methods . c'mon be honest .
 
Its just like saying one could do very well from playing the slot machines .
The other equation to this is that in the long run u will be big loser .
 
you said one could do very well from recoognizing supports and resistances ,
but you failed to say that also one can do very poorly from from technical analysis like the 95% of losers that use your methods . c'mon be honest .

I would not question that one could do very poorly using technical analysis to attempt to make a dollar from the markets. Whether the 95% figure that is thrown around is correct, I don't know, but I suspect it's quite high nevertheless.

I know of no one who 'uses my methods'. The approach I take to analysing the market, while not necessarily ground breaking, could possibly be unique. My approach to risk management, money management, and trade management is certainly not original. I do regard myself as a very competent analyst and I do take exception to being labeled 'lucky'.

The 95% or whatever it is that lose money are going to lose for any of a large number of reasons. These are already written about all over this forum, other sites, books etc. and I am not going to go and re-hash them here.

Just one of these reasons, as you suggest, relates to technical analysis. Some are going to have little knowledge of how best to analyse the markets and are going to apply a limited understanding of the subject and lose simply as they don't have an 'edge'. They may think they do but if it were to be back tested or forward tested they may find they do not. Another problem might be that the system may be curve fitted on historical data but is not rigorous enough to work in the current live market. Others may chop and change systems thereby not giving their system a chance to work. The list goes on.

To suggest that 95% of traders fail due to technical analysis being akin to reading tarot cards is garbage. There are plenty out there that make money consistently that use technical analysis, thereby proving it's worth. I am sure that if you speak to a large number of unprofitable traders, most of them would be able to identify issues other than technical analysis that was impacting their trading, and if fixed, could turn around their profitability. Managing positions to extract more from them than is being risked most of the time springs to mind. Tho even this ties into technical analysis - personally I only enter a position when I believe I have a very good chance of extracting more from it than what I am risking. I don't, however, see how hedging a losing position, as you've suggested, is any better than closing it and re-opening another later on.

Its just like saying one could do very well from playing the slot machines .
The other equation to this is that in the long run u will be big loser .

Quite the converse. Personally, I have an edge, similar to a slot machine. Different to the slot machine as the slot machine is hard programmed with a fixed edge. I can make mistakes, but slot machines do not. As I have an edge, which I believe to be robust enough to be a work in the long term, I will not be a big loser. Just like a slot machine I suffer drawdowns. But I am what could be regarded as consistently profitable. And I believe I am flexible enough in my approach to stay that way.
 
These recent posts are complete gibberish .. try expressing your opinions in a concise and logical fashion and maybe you'll get your point across.
 
I would not question that one could do very poorly using technical analysis to attempt to make a dollar from the markets. Whether the 95% figure that is thrown around is correct, I don't know, but I suspect it's quite high nevertheless.

I know of no one who 'uses my methods'. The approach I take to analysing the market, while not necessarily ground breaking, could possibly be unique. My approach to risk management, money management, and trade management is certainly not original. I do regard myself as a very competent analyst and I do take exception to being labeled 'lucky'.

The 95% or whatever it is that lose money are going to lose for any of a large number of reasons. These are already written about all over this forum, other sites, books etc. and I am not going to go and re-hash them here.

Just one of these reasons, as you suggest, relates to technical analysis. Some are going to have little knowledge of how best to analyse the markets and are going to apply a limited understanding of the subject and lose simply as they don't have an 'edge'. They may think they do but if it were to be back tested or forward tested they may find they do not. Another problem might be that the system may be curve fitted on historical data but is not rigorous enough to work in the current live market. Others may chop and change systems thereby not giving their system a chance to work. The list goes on.

To suggest that 95% of traders fail due to technical analysis being akin to reading tarot cards is garbage. There are plenty out there that make money consistently that use technical analysis, thereby proving it's worth. I am sure that if you speak to a large number of unprofitable traders, most of them would be able to identify issues other than technical analysis that was impacting their trading, and if fixed, could turn around their profitability. Managing positions to extract more from them than is being risked most of the time springs to mind. Tho even this ties into technical analysis - personally I only enter a position when I believe I have a very good chance of extracting more from it than what I am risking. I don't, however, see how hedging a losing position, as you've suggested, is any better than closing it and re-opening another later on.



Quite the converse. Personally, I have an edge, similar to a slot machine. Different to the slot machine as the slot machine is hard programmed with a fixed edge. I can make mistakes, but slot machines do not. As I have an edge, which I believe to be robust enough to be a work in the long term, I will not be a big loser. Just like a slot machine I suffer drawdowns. But I am what could be regarded as consistently profitable. And I believe I am flexible enough in my approach to stay that way.

All the best with your approach .
In regards to hedging losing positions .
I have found that not booking in a loss (stop) ,
i get to re-evaluate where the trade went wrong while waiting for an overbought/sold situation where i attempt to recoup part or whole of my losses .
So if I'm long eur/usd I will have a pending sell order ***pips away from the entry price .
 
Long and short the same instrument, is still not a hedge.
Hedge
To reduce the risk of an investment by making an offsetting investment. There are a large number of hedging strategies that one can use. To give an example, one may take a long position on a security and then sell short the same or a similar security. This means that one will profit (or at least avoid a loss) no matter which direction the security's price takes. Hedging may reduce risk, but it is important to note that it also reduces profit potential.
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Its just like saying one could do very well from playing the slot machines .
The other equation to this is that in the long run u will be big loser .

I have an edge at the casino. I watch all the grannys playing slots. When they lose a few hundreds, i jump on and make 50$ and leave.
 
No, I think he means like, you know....

Nothing these grannies like more after losing a few hundred than a quickie from a bit of rough.
 
Ok, so back to this only 1% are successful thing ... it's a simply staggering statistic, beyond the realms of all probabilistic expectation. I know this subject has been done to death before, but it's still fairly amazing. It almost suggests that if you're profitable for a couple of years, you'd better watch out as the balance is about to be restored ..
 
Ok, so back to this only 1% are successful thing ... it's a simply staggering statistic, beyond the realms of all probabilistic expectation. I know this subject has been done to death before, but it's still fairly amazing. It almost suggests that if you're profitable for a couple of years, you'd better watch out as the balance is about to be restored ..
No, I don't believe that's the case. I'm going from memory on this, but it was the Odean piece, 80% of all those that eventually blow up do so within 6 months of commencing trading.

The rest drag it out…

To use your 2 years example, if you can look back over a consistently profitable 24 months (nicely rising equity curve and non-existent drawdown, well, OK, maybe just a bit…) then you probably have cause to feel faintly optimistic about your future in trading. If it’s been profitable only because of that one mega-lucky trade that dug you out of that 80% drawdown, then, no, don’t order the yacht just yet.

No idea where the time-since-consistently-profitable safety point is, or even if there is one. Probably best to assume there isn’t one, stay vigilant and keeping taking them money…
 
Doesn't the law of large numbers kick in wrt to this measurement problem rather than it be time based?

So if you've done 12 trades in a year, that's not really a large enough sample size. If you've done 400 trades in the year, then you're probably looking ok providing there was a variety of conditions over the year.

I love these trading 'facts' that kick around.
 
Something that has worked consistently in the markets over years may also cease to work in subsequent conditions ... don't know what they call that ..... instochasticity?


Doesn't the law of large numbers kick in wrt to this measurement problem rather than it be time based?

So if you've done 12 trades in a year, that's not really a large enough sample size. If you've done 400 trades in the year, then you're probably looking ok providing there was a variety of conditions over the year.

I love these trading 'facts' that kick around.
 
Something that has worked consistently in the markets over years may also cease to work in subsequent conditions ... don't know what they call that ..... instochasticity?

A real edge is permanent. Let that thought be written indelibly upon your mind.
 
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