Build Neural Network Indicator in MT4 using Neuroshell
Hi Arryex and Tovim!
@tovim: yes maybe, but when I use a model only unsing MACD I get (better) results,
only one indi used... (of course different software, different problems... ;-) )
@Arryex: Thanks a lot... data attached.
Maybe a logic failure of the model?!
Maybe my CPU speed is the problem... ;-))
Bye, AT
@tovim: yes maybe, but when I use a model only unsing MACD I get (better) results,
only one indi used... (of course different software, different problems... ;-) )
@Arryex: Thanks a lot... data attached.
Maybe a logic failure of the model?!
Maybe my CPU speed is the problem... ;-))
Bye, AT
Hi AT,
First, I am surprise when I call your saved model it doesn't show a proper output, I found that your csv data format is different with mine (normal csv format).
What actually software that you use to create csv file? otherwise we have different PC formatting,i.e. "," delimited is converted to ";" delimited on your PC and "." become ",".
i will try to change it first.
First, I am surprise when I call your saved model it doesn't show a proper output, I found that your csv data format is different with mine (normal csv format).
What actually software that you use to create csv file? otherwise we have different PC formatting,i.e. "," delimited is converted to ";" delimited on your PC and "." become ",".
i will try to change it first.
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Hi Arryex!
Thanks for your help!
My data format looks like the following (attached) when I open it with an editor.
Of course it's different - I think that's results of US and EU? hmmm.
I also have this when I open a (US-)Excel file... "," = "."
Maybe I can change this setting...
Anyway in CH - when I look all data - the are shown.
Also when I save md with CH, look ok...
Bye, AT
Thanks for your help!
My data format looks like the following (attached) when I open it with an editor.
Of course it's different - I think that's results of US and EU? hmmm.
I also have this when I open a (US-)Excel file... "," = "."
Maybe I can change this setting...
Anyway in CH - when I look all data - the are shown.
Also when I save md with CH, look ok...
Bye, AT
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Hi Arryex!
Please, see the pictures attached... no good model...
Strange thing for me -> about 20.000 generations...
(training time was about 14hours...)
But, model info say, only 4500?! generations and strange optimization time.
(maybe this is the time/info CH needed for the choosen model - anyway)
Bye, AT
Please, see the pictures attached... no good model...
Strange thing for me -> about 20.000 generations...
(training time was about 14hours...)
But, model info say, only 4500?! generations and strange optimization time.
(maybe this is the time/info CH needed for the choosen model - anyway)
Bye, AT
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Hi Arryex!
I used the formular editor and tried to "rebuilt" your results/model...
(thanks for this!)
(not what I want to do in future ;-)) please, don't get me wrong, very very nice results/models from you, but I of course want do it by my own)
and got the following results ?!
I think, I did something wrong.... any ideas...
Bye, AT
I used the formular editor and tried to "rebuilt" your results/model...
(thanks for this!)
(not what I want to do in future ;-)) please, don't get me wrong, very very nice results/models from you, but I of course want do it by my own)
and got the following results ?!
I think, I did something wrong.... any ideas...
Bye, AT
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I think we have different format setting on windows (I use USA formatting by default)
Hi AT,
When you do the optimization, you set the optimization and out of sample range right? at the time CH doing the optimization, select the equity instead of objective. Then you can see how the equity on both optimization and oos. You select which model that giving good result on both sides (optimization and oos).
That what so far I did, I never let CH running so many generation if the result is not good, I will change the input formula if necessary.
What I means as supercomputer, I do not have GPU, I just use 8 core CPU.
Hope this will help you.
iinvestsaham
Hi At,
The case we face here is a common problem of prediction with AI, a model tends to overfit during optimization period, more time used during optimization more the model to overfit and worst during oos.
I use the method avaible in most software, set the optimization, paper trade and oos, in some software they call is as optimization, test and production range. An ideal model should perform in those data range and lucky if it works on the real data.
You should find how to perform such modeling, CH only provide optimization and oos while NST has papertrade option.
Cheer
iinvestsaham
The case we face here is a common problem of prediction with AI, a model tends to overfit during optimization period, more time used during optimization more the model to overfit and worst during oos.
I use the method avaible in most software, set the optimization, paper trade and oos, in some software they call is as optimization, test and production range. An ideal model should perform in those data range and lucky if it works on the real data.
You should find how to perform such modeling, CH only provide optimization and oos while NST has papertrade option.
Cheer
iinvestsaham
Hi Arryex!
I understand the problem with overfitting. training, papertrading, OOS, -> real trading, but my problem actualy is, that I'm not able, to "rebuilt" or let me say setup, the model you have in your sample posted. I use the same data and the same settings (input via "formular editor") so for my understanding I should get the same results for the same time/date?
Bye, AT
I understand the problem with overfitting. training, papertrading, OOS, -> real trading, but my problem actualy is, that I'm not able, to "rebuilt" or let me say setup, the model you have in your sample posted. I use the same data and the same settings (input via "formular editor") so for my understanding I should get the same results for the same time/date?
Bye, AT
Here the data that used, since my excel read the csv in "," delimited then I change all ";" for column separation. See the display comparison your original data with mine, your original one could not be shown in my CH.
In addition, you my ask to ward support center related with your concern, they may give you an advice.
In addition, you my ask to ward support center related with your concern, they may give you an advice.
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Hi Arryex!
Thanks for your info...
I think data input is not the problem... see the attached files...
(I also have to convert sample files from ward if I want to test/use it)
Also attched the screenshots of the whole setup...
Very very strange... if I now input your formular I got bad results...
No matter wether I use "scale inputs" or not..
Do you see any faults in setup?
Otherwise, I'm going to have to contact ward support...
Thanks and bye, AT
Thanks for your info...
I think data input is not the problem... see the attached files...
(I also have to convert sample files from ward if I want to test/use it)
Also attched the screenshots of the whole setup...
Very very strange... if I now input your formular I got bad results...
No matter wether I use "scale inputs" or not..
Do you see any faults in setup?
Otherwise, I'm going to have to contact ward support...
Thanks and bye, AT
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