Brexit - Will it be ratified?

Brexit – Will it be ratified?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 55.9%

  • No

    Votes: 9 26.5%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 6 17.6%
  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .
barjon said:
Fair enough, I don't doubt your sincerity in arriving st your judgement. By the same token people shouldn't doubt the sincerity of the remainers in holding the position they do.

I believe, with equal passion to yours, that Britain has been and would be better off as part of the EU. That's not to say Britain will not make a success of going it alone, albeit that there are a lot of "maybes" about at the moment.

You would not expect a Tory to become a Socialist just because the Labour Party win a general election, so it's surely reasonable for a remainer to hold the same view despite the referendum result?
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After the result, that we were actually leaving and being our own country again, did it not give you even a small sense of pride and dare i say excitement that we will set our own destiny...
 
barjon said:
Fair enough, I don't doubt your sincerity in arriving st your judgement. By the same token people shouldn't doubt the sincerity of the remainers in holding the position they do.

I believe, with equal passion to yours, that Britain has been and would be better off as part of the EU. That's not to say Britain will not make a success of going it alone, albeit that there are a lot of "maybes" about at the moment.

You would not expect a Tory to become a Socialist just because the Labour Party win a general election, so it's surely reasonable for a remainer to hold the same view despite the referendum result?
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This really is the problem, I think a great number of us do doubt the remainians sincerity. If I could be bothered, i'm sure I could dig up comments, speeches and articles from the past, where politicians have said they are Eurosceptic and yet when it comes to action, they go all weak and limp.


The politicians should thank us for taking this decision out of their hands. All we ask from them in return is to just get on with the job in hand. It's not a big ask to get on message and deliver.

I tell you this though, the ones who continue bleating on about life outside the EU, really ought not be in parliament. They might as well go find something else to do. :)
 
Sonicscooter said:
After the result, that we were actually leaving and being our own country again, did it not give you even a small sense of pride and dare i say excitement that we will set our own destiny...
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Not really. I've always been proud of my country and never felt that it was not my own. I despaired of our gradual post war decline before joining the EEC (Harold McMillan famously described his job as PM as "managing Britain's decline") and was cheered by the turnaround coming from a combination of EU membership and the better bits of Thatcher.
 
barjon said:
Not really. I've always been proud of my country and never felt that it was not my own. I despaired of our gradual post war decline before joining the EEC (Harold McMillan famously described his job as PM as "managing Britain's decline") and was cheered by the turnaround coming from a combination of EU membership and the better bits of Thatcher.
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Maybe what makes us different, is you judge our "here and now" on the EEC etc, but haven't anything to compare it to if we had never joined, we wouldn't have been stuck in a time warp, the world moves on, to me i feel we would have been far more nimble in our decisions as opposed to being tied to Europe, we would have done what we have always done, looked at the world and traded.....:)
 
Referendum was a tory pledge in the last manifesto. (tis the reason why they got a majority at the last General Election)
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The referendum was of minor importance to the threat of an SNP and Labour alliance and the statements made by the SNP that they would hold the rest of the UK to ransom to their own agenda.

More people were swayed by that to vote Tory than anything else in the election.
 
Trader333 said:
The referendum was of minor importance to the threat of an SNP and Labour alliance and the statements made by the SNP that they would hold the rest of the UK to ransom to their own agenda.

More people who were swayed by that to vote Tory than anything else in the election.
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Agree, another very good reason why they got in.

All in all, the country has moved right of center and just in the nick of time :)
 
Trader333 said:
The referendum was of minor importance to the threat of an SNP and Labour alliance and the statements made by the SNP that they would hold the rest of the UK to ransom to their own agenda.

More people were swayed by that to vote Tory than anything else in the election.
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Notice Miss SNP has gone somewhat quiet of late, probably been told to put a sock in it, oh how funny if they did get independence then don't make the grade to join Europe, but then again, Europe needs happy punters.....:D
 
counter_violent said:
Now correct me if I'm wrong.

But isn't that the stated aim of the Govt and the BOE for us to try and achieve 2% inflation? This would mean we really are recovering and that interest rates may have to be used to control it, thus increasing the value of the pound thereafter.

One thing for sure, EU will still be printing money and stimulating long after we have started our recovery in earnest. :)
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Wrong!

Inflation will further lead to falls in the pound.

Benefit of inflation are to effectively reduce burden of debt and favours producers to pass on price rises.
 
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counter_violent said:
Wrong !

You are always wrong :LOL: No other reason needed !
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Devaulation/depreciatoin in the pound will only have a one off hit benefit on exports.

If that benefit is swallowed up in inflationary price rises then the benefit will be lost and it'll be back to the doldrums.

Raising rates will then subsequently handicap business. However, will be necessary to attract hot capital flows to either balance BoP or service increasing Government debt.

I very much hope you never get to number 11 otherwise you're more likely to wreck the UK economy. :cry::cry::cry:
 
Atilla said:
Wrong!

Inflation will further lead to falls in the pound.

Benefit of inflation is to effectively reduce burden of debt and favours producers to pass on price rises.
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Inflation thing of the past.

Central banks and University yet to work it out.
 
England must be all out of Xanax because a certain someone needs to calm down.
 
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