Binary Options Con/Scam

Nadex Options - Legal

Nadex is subject to regulatory oversight by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC),
a government body committed to protecting market users from fraud and manipulation.

So why don't you have Nadex on your list of recommended brokers David,
or even GFT and IG (who own Nadex)in the UK (both of which are FSA regulated)?

Simple answer for anyone reading this thread, DO NOT TOUCH AN UNREGULATED BROKER.
THERE SIMPLY IS NO NEED TO.
WHY TAKE THE CHANCE...
 
Mr Filder You bloody Moran\( I tried to refrain from personal attack so far)

Th3 heart of the matter has been explained to you not just by me but many
You a are worst than a chameleon
You and your Dodgy "Broker" partners in crime wil one day get a whack from the Authority
Your promotion of these dangerous products is a digress and I just hope gullible people don;t fall for this nonsense
I think this week I saved 1 at least

Now **** off will ya
 
keep it up guys ..........

I hope your due dilligence may help at least some of the more trusting Newbies at T2W

10/10
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Amazing
I am the bloody moron.
SO far, You have bashed binary options (a financial product readily available via methods as explained here by even some of the same people thereafter bashing the product). You can create your own or you can use Nadex, or you can use a CYSEC broker, or you can go unregulated.

I am a moron for trying 1 more time to get you people back on track with the damn argument at hand
If you wish to deflect back to me, YES I PROMOTE BINARY OPTIONS BROKER. I HATE REGULATORS.
I am 100% unabashed about saying so. I think the FSA is a joke. I think CYSEC is a joke. I think the NFA and CFTC are protecting the futures industry to the detriment of retail forex traders. YES YES


So why on god's green earth do you expect me to suddenly say "oops, yeah, you're right. NADEX are great". They suck monkey scrotom and really everyone knows it. So what if they are regulated. I wouldn't trade there. My readers won't trade there. And people here don't seem to care for them either. So what are we left with?
Hmm, FSA regulated brokers. OK - fine with me. Want to go that way, I have no issue with it. Never claimed a problem with GFT or IG.

SO let's go back to the intitial argument; binary options are ok. Binary options brokers aren't all bad. And you can get your money back from unregulated brokers. This I know 1st hand as I trade myself at some of these brokers.

All of them are market makers just like all forex brokers are MMs as well. So:
1. I have no issue with MMs
2. I have no issue with them bascially being glorified casinos
3. I don't like regulators as they don't protect the end user in any meaningful way. The broekrs will continue to actively seek ways to keep all traders in a B book, continue to actively seek ways of making sure you lose, and continue to slow your withdrawal attempts to a minimum. Oh yea, sounds pretty much identical to unregulated brokers doesn't it

I again and again and again and again and again agreed that a regulated broker has a great benefit in insurance. If they go bankrupt, you have protection. No dount that's a great thing. Problem with that is that you get a false sense of security, and you're still losing your money to a broker out to see you fail. It has done nothing to improve your chances of earning. And that's my beef. No one is stating otherwise.

Calling me a moron doesn't make your argument that unregulated brokers are crap any better. you people are simply using truisms as a means of arguing a moot point. No one is arguing that regulated brokers are bad - Im just saying, being regulated won't improve your winnings. It won't make the broker stop trying to see you lose and earn on those losses. Regulated or not - you are going to lose, so no one gives a rat's ass.
 
"Regulated or not - you are going to lose, so no one gives a rat's ass"

Well at least that's true. If you trade binary options you will lose your money and the people that promote binary options won't give a rats ass. Sums it up perfectly.
 
You were the one promoting a broker just 2 weeks ago. You are a hypocrite
And for the record, I was speaking of forex brokers in the same breath as binary brokers
But if all you want is to convinced those who are convinced, well you'll make those peons laugh with ease
 
If u trade with patience and if u dont run u will earn on binary options.
Just all u need to do is, to invest small amout, to have patience and to withdraw funds weekly for exemple 200usd.
 
If u trade with patience and if u dont run u will earn on binary options.
Just all u need to do is, to invest small amout, to have patience and to withdraw funds weekly for exemple 200usd.

:mad:OMG:mad: !!!!
BASH HIM!!! He's saying that you can earn with a financial product that's easily constructable using vanilla options and can be even further accessible and easy to use using a binary options broker and he said nothing about regulation!!

:devilish:BURN HIM AT THE STAKE !!!:devilish:

Bunch of hypocrites !

Hooray for :clap:Muro:clap: for coming to the side of reason and leaving the zealotry to the peons
 
:mad:OMG:mad: !!!!
BASH HIM!!! He's saying that you can earn with a financial product that's easily constructable using vanilla options and can be even further accessible and easy to use using a binary options broker and he said nothing about regulation!!

:devilish:BURN HIM AT THE STAKE !!!:devilish:

Bunch of hypocrites !

Hooray for :clap:Muro:clap: for coming to the side of reason and leaving the zealotry to the peons

:rolleyes: Still trying to steer people to the dodgy half arsed brokers from your
"review" site I see...

This whole issue never had anything to do with binary options.
Its purely about low rent, unprofessional, under funded joke shop outfits
who are drawn to binary options as its the easiest route
to becoming an unregulated broker in a backwater on a pittance.
We even had one binary options broker here recently who admitted
they chose that route as they couldn't afford to go down the UK CFD wrapper route.
So they can't afford the fees and red tape, yet client funds are perfectly safe...do me a favour :LOL:

Its purely about who is more likely to go bust, either genuinely or deliberately,
and then disappear with clients funds.

You still haven' answered the question, and never will:
Why would anyone use one of these brokers, when there are safer brokers.
Absolutely no reason whatsoever.
Thats the issue.
 
You still haven' answered the question, and never will:
Why would anyone use one of these brokers, when there are safer brokers.
Absolutely no reason whatsoever.
Thats the issue.

In answer to this question, and I have answered it countless times, but here goes again:
the safer routes are not really offering an alternative to the trader.
It's like telling a forex trader to go trade futures.
It's just not the same. Trading with Nadex is ok. I wouldn't do it. I prefer not trading binaries at all than to trade with them. Safer brokers are great if your interest is making sure you get paid if they go bankrupt and are willing to settle for an inferior trading product until then.

That's the point. Again, it's a question of product differences as these are 2 different products.
The way you guys argue it is a bit inane. Just arguing that trading with a regualted broker is bretter is a simple truism. You are right ! It is.
Problems is, those same regulated brokers are falling short on many aspects of the trading experience that traders simply DO NOT wish to compromise on (service level, product level, trading platform level, and much much more)
 
You still haven' answered the question, and never will:
Why would anyone use one of these brokers, when there are safer brokers.
Absolutely no reason whatsoever.
Thats the issue.

In answer to this question, and I have answered it countless times, but here goes again:
the safer routes are not really offering an alternative to the trader.
It's like telling a forex trader to go trade futures.
It's just not the same. Trading with Nadex is ok. I wouldn't do it. I prefer not trading binaries at all than to trade with them. Safer brokers are great if your interest is making sure you get paid if they go bankrupt and are willing to settle for an inferior trading product until then.

That's the point. Again, it's a question of product differences as these are 2 different products.
The way you guys argue it is a bit inane. Just arguing that trading with a regualted broker is bretter is a simple truism. You are right ! It is.
Problems is, those same regulated brokers are falling short on many aspects of the trading experience that traders simply DO NOT wish to compromise on (service level, product level, trading platform level, and much much more)

You've missed the crux of my argument.
The brokers you seem to prefer are unregulated for one reason.
They wouldn't meet the regulatory requirements, and they can't afford the
cost of the whole process.

So why don't they go down the more costly regulated route, and
take the "inferior" regulated brokers business from them.
Simple, they can't afford to.

Bearing that in mind, and as you said, a regulated broker is better.
Why would anyone use one of these outfits?
Nobody in their right mind would trade for income with serious money with that type of broker.
You mentioned telling a forex trader to trade futures.
So you see no distinction between an ECN like interbank broker and
a dodgy Cyprus based russian mafia owned forex broker?

Which leaves the only realistic possibility, they know their customer don't have a
clue, and are basically easy pickings.
That is the only reason you are here to steer mug punters to those brokers.
 
You've missed the crux of my argument.
The brokers you seem to prefer are unregulated for one reason.
They wouldn't meet the regulatory requirements, and they can't afford the
cost of the whole process.

So why don't they go down the more costly regulated route, and
take the "inferior" regulated brokers business from them.
Simple, they can't afford to.

Bearing that in mind, and as you said, a regulated broker is better.
Why would anyone use one of these outfits?
Nobody in their right mind would trade for income with serious money with that type of broker.
You mentioned telling a forex trader to trade futures.
So you see no distinction between an ECN like interbank broker and
a dodgy Cyprus based russian mafia owned forex broker?

Which leaves the only realistic possibility, they know their customer don't have a
clue, and are basically easy pickings.
That is the only reason you are here to steer mug punters to those brokers.

1. Untrue- you have no basis for this and are going down the same route of simply bashing them for no reason now. Uncalled for. With binary options, it's almost impossible NOT to meet the requirements. It's unbelievable how easy it is because there's no leverage and the marketing materials are all acceptable by the FSA and CYSEC and MIFID so... no idea what you are getting at. Regulation for binary options will begin in full force in 2013 (in Europe and even in Japan later in the year). So again, NO IDEA what you're talking about.
These companies are unregulated today BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON TO BE REGULATE OUTSIDE THE US AND UK. NO one is regulating Binaries. Even in the US, it's not really 100% understood seeing as how the CFTC refuses to touch the subject and the SEC likely won't deal with it ever. So long as binary options companies don't offer forex via their platforms to US customers, there is NO regulation on it. It's not 100% legal either. But it's NOT regulated. It's a problem in the US. But that's the whole problem, ie NO ALTERNATIVES. But nearly EVERY binary broker WILL be regulated come mid 2013. So again, no clue what you're talking about. You have no basis for this.

2. I don't see why a Cyprus based company, part of MIFID, and probably even passported into the FSA, is an issue. In the end, FXPro (pretty much exactly what you described) is passported into the FSA. So who do you have an issue with? the owners? the clients? or the regulators?
Pissed off that mafiosos can run forex companies? Ask the FSA why they allow it?
Please -people, get off your high horses. Half the forex companies out there are being run by ex-casino operators or mafia peeps. The other half are Wall St. styled thugs that found themselves a license to steal.

Seriously, if you don't want to trade with an unregulated broker - fine. It's probably a good choice. Just don't tell me that the FSA is going to protect me when GFT screws me over. And don't tell me that NADEX is the answer, as they such monkey scrotom. And don't tell me that FXPRO is any different than anyone else regulated or otherwise. Binary options are a product that are desirable by the public and the CYSEC are the only ones going out the regulate it with MIFID to follow suit shortly thereafter. The Japanese are doing it too. But that's basically it. So what am I left with. An FSA run operation that lets the broker do as he pleases and if he fails, well, im insured. But I will lose anyway cause binary options arent a regulated activity. Hmmm - Ill pass
Nadex- worst service on the planet. Again. Ill pass
Unregulated broker that will give me service and pays out W/Ds quickly. hmmm not easy to find, admittedly, but I can name 3-4 that meet the grade. Oh, and guess what - because they know it's going to be a regulated market, they are already doing compliance just like a regulated company.

If you choose to bash - next time do it to someone dumber or less informed than me. I am simply too close to this and know a bit more than you. And as yet, I never promoted a particular broker. I am just saying the unregulated market is a big problem - but manageable. There are in fact brokers out there that do care, do give great service, do not mess with pricing, and do pay out W/Ds.
 
:mad:OMG:mad: !!!!
BASH HIM!!! He's saying that you can earn with a financial product that's easily constructable using vanilla options and can be even further accessible and easy to use using a binary options broker and he said nothing about regulation!!

:devilish:BURN HIM AT THE STAKE !!!:devilish:

Bunch of hypocrites !

Hooray for :clap:Muro:clap: for coming to the side of reason and leaving the zealotry to the peons

I thought that this forum is only for adults :cool:
 
I was being sarcastic. If you read the entire thread, you would realize that you are the first person to defend, to some degree, the binary options industry. So I was so excited I decided to us silly emoticons. Never likely to happen again. But.. It was in honor of a sensible comment
 
I will prepare tutorial an also i will explein where i trade binaries.
In previous comment i mention how is better to trade binaries and i didnt mention that i gurantee for them, thats why i say there is better to invest small amount and to withdraw often.
 
In reply to:
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/fix...4-binary-options-con-scam-15.html#post2025476

1/ True in at least 1 instance(admitted by a broker), but I suppose this is an isolated incident :rolleyes:
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/fix...4-mr-stone-binary-trading-13.html#post1994924

2/ Yeah you're right, no different than IB or MB etc. :rolleyes:

FFS binaries with unregulated bucket shops, yeah I hear goldman and JP are
desperate to open accounts asap :LOL:

You still don't get it do you (well you do but are just continually dodging the issue).
I and anyone else with half a brain would not trust any of these jokers
with any serious money.


You have an ulterior motive to promote these bucket shops.
If I'm wrong, tell me why you are really here :)
 
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