your a FOOL tradeboi , there are millions of people trading in commoditys around the world on sites like tradekey wyzen, etc but 99% of them are joker brokers who dont know how the industry works, learnglobal tell you how to do it the professional way ie be the end /buyer seller effectively you act as an agent for both the buyer and the seller without them knowing banks have a system of tranferable letters of credit , you ask the supplier how much he wants for his goods telling him your the buyer lets say he says $300,000 you then approach the buyer as the seller and say 320,000 the 20,000 dolar mark up is your profit as the middle man you then sign 2 seperate contracts with the buyer and seller so you wont get circumvented , if they ever know each other they have no need for the middle man so you are in effect a re-seller only you use your buyers money the letter of credit which is transferable hits your trading account (hsbc will set up a dollar account for you they have a branch in liescester for this trade only) when the lc hits your bank you fill in a form telling your bank to transfer the original 300 quote from your seller to him but to issue a new letter of credit with your details hence the seller thinks you are the buyer the 20 mark up is in your bank as profit the bill of laden has your name on it for when the buyer picks it up from the shipmaster at the port of loading THIS is A REAL INDUSTRY you know that gold has 2 fixing Prices a day ask your freinds at sucden , the 1st is done by the fsa regulated idiots at places like sucden the FUTURES AND OPTIONS SIDE OF THINGS ITS A GUESS WORK INDUSTRY the second fixing or the real price depends on How real commoditys brokers those who i have been trading this way for thousands of years perform in other worDS if i sell a large amount oF sugar or fuel to the rockafellers next month i will personelly effect the global proce of that commodity you can deal in anything from d2 (russian deasel) mazut jp54 , slco (saudi light crude) llco(libiyan light crude) bblc (bonny light crude) gold bullion dory bars , gold dust etc you get the buyer and the seller to meet for gold deals and the gold is assayed so you make sure your name is on the payment instrument so as no to get circumvented as they actually have to meet to do the transaction of funds with fuel the buyer and seller never know who each other the fuel is loaded free on board and picked up by the buyer THIS IS A VERY BASIC EXPLANATION IF YOU ACTUALLY DID THE COURSE YOUR IGNORANCE WOULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN TRADING WITH A PROFESSIONAL BROKERAGE HOUSE AND YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ICT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED