Anyone Looked at This?

[ivot]

I was wondering if anyone had checked out this website http://www.tradetofreedom.com/
Their claims are outrageous but of course I'm curious. Has anyone had experience with what ever exactly their selling?

 

[BroadSword]

Never seen it before, but their quote:

"Fact... The only way to make huge profits trading futures is to make sure you never have a losing trade "

makes me want to have nothing ever to do with them! If anyone had a system that never made a losing trade, you'd be a billionaire without any interest in other peoples' $199!

 

[salicsale]

No sweating, secret handed to you on a silver platter, milions just click away?????
As Alexander Elder sad don't walk, run from them.

 

[frugi]

And how do they do it?

"The answer is that we have uncovered the Futures Market best-kept secret ....and here it is in a nutshell:

There are closely related futures contracts that when traded in the appropriate ratios create unending oscillations of profit. When these contracts are properly traded there will never be a losing trade.

You can spend hundreds of hours of lost time and lose hundreds of thousands of dollars in trying to figure this out for yourself, or you can spend $199.95 and have this secret handed to you on a silver platter."

Sign me up now 😆

Oh, hang on, but ...

"Any hypothetical or simulated performance results have certain limitations. Unlike an actual performance record, simulated results do not represent actual trading. Also, since trades may or may not have been actually executed, the results may have under or over-compensated for the impact, if any of certain market factors, such as lack of liquidity. Simulated trading programs in general are also subject to the fact that they are designed with the benefit of hindsight. No representation can, will or is being made that any account will, or is likely to, achieve profits or losses similar to those shown in any hypothetical performance record on this website."

:cheesy: :cheesy:

 

[clylbw]

No representation can, will or is being made that any account will, or is likely to, achieve profits or losses similar to those shown in any hypothetical performance record on this website.

:cheesy:

Another search for the Midas touch gone mad???

BTW, if there were the following two systems:

1. System 1: for every 5 trades, 1 loser and 4 winners, with the loser maximum at 0.5% and the winners average at 2% per trade;

2. System 2: for every 5 trades, all winners, average at 0.5% per trade.

I would take the former, losing trades or not. 😕

 

[Fader]

I use Kwikpop, great set of tools, very visual and good at keeping you on the right side of a trade, you can still be done in by chop but I've never seen a system that could escape that

 

[ivot]

Well I certainly understand what you are all saying and I agree 100% but has anyone actually DONE their program? As I said their claims are outrageous, but I wanted to know if anyone had actually tried what they are talking about? Of course their going to have disclaimer, that's a given in this industry.

 

[Roberto]

Haven't looked, but it sounds like trading spreads to me(?) It is (at least in theory!) possible to make trades with no risk of loss, I think? Probably calls for a very high investment to make small profits, or something? (Hasn't Joe Ross written something about this?) ...

Now I come to think about it (not always a wise move, in my case ...) aren't there people called "arbitrageurs" who are employed by the likes of Goldman Sachs at enormous salaries and bonuses whose job consists entirely of risk-free trades with no possibility of losing? Maybe this website relates to the sort of trading they do ... (???)

 

[Racer]

As I said their claims are outrageous

If that is the case, then why waste your time even thinking about it.

 

[ivot]

And now....drum role please....

If it's so darnd fine, then, what's the point of selling it? 😱

Ahh yes, the eternal question asked by everyone who has looked at purchasing systems, books, courses, etc, on trading. I guess my question has been answered though, no one has given this a shot.

 

[timsk]

If it's so darnd fine, then, what's the point of selling it? 😱

According to their FAQ's section they can trade their system AND sell it for additional income without detriment to the effectiveness and performance of the system. So it's easy extra money for them - sounds reasonable to me.
Tim.

 

[nine]

Been asked before

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/showthread.php?t=13856

 

[ardhill]

aren't there people called "arbitrageurs" who are employed by the likes of Goldman Sachs at enormous salaries and bonuses whose job consists entirely of risk-free trades with no possibility of losing?

Arbitrage is more or less risk free (nothing it totally risk free), but makes small profits - so unless you have a BIG bank roll and aren't afraid to put it on the line (low risk or not), then it can work.

I don't know exactly how arbitrage on the markets work, but sports betting arbitrage is hard work and a lot of discipline for little profits - me I prefer hard work and a lot of discipline for the change of better profits. I am not greedy, I am perfectly willing to take losses (they come with the territory), and not trying to find the home run. But even some simple trading set ups give you better winnings than arbitrage for the normal home trader.

 

[hanhao]

any other comments on kwikpop?

 

[eminimethods_com]

any other comments on kwikpop?

It's a tool, most people who use it like it, but I really don't like the idea of paying almost $200 for it every month. You can get a free 2 week trial, so you may want to take advantage of it and see for yourself. If you do, please let us know your opinion, preferably in some other thread.

Best,
Wally

 

[saras]

find the system here BookFinal.pdf

 

[superjack]

It looks good plan in theory but I guess if it was working in practice the Phd. author wouldn’t have trying to sell this ebook.

 

[Correnna]

SeasonalFuturesCharts.com have excellent seasonal/spread charts!

 

[white4burgundy]

There is no venture that never loses. Losses help a trader rebuild itself.

 

[joe4422]

For arbitrage you'll also need a supercomputer, about 100 of them. Arbitrage is not open to the retail investor. You'll be trying to grab oppurtunities ahead of super computers and large trading institutions designed solely for this purpose. They have billions, they pay almost no commission, so long before an arbitrage would become feasable for you, it would already be taken by them.

We know this system is BS. But I am curious too Is there anyone out there who actually did it? Share with us please. I imagine it's somthing like the gambling website secret system. Keep betting on black and double your bet each time.