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Which "flourishing" forum would that be?
Hi Alexa,With apologies, I'm not here to promote any other forum (and wouldn't like that at all, if I owned this place). I've discussed it with some staff members, but have no wish to do so openly. Please excuse me. Though I may occasionally appear not to be, I'm actually a well-wisher here, not just a critic.
That's only superficially "surprising", John: the reality is that this - and other things like it - are inevitable.
They happen for a reason: it's just the sad but predictable outcome of a situation in which over the last few years, very steadily and consistently, most of the serious traders who used to participate here have been driven away by the forum's moderation policies. That's no "big mystery": enough of them have explained it openly (both here and elsewhere) either just before or just after leaving, and they continue to do so.
My point is simply that those are the same exact moderation policies which have themselves also directly and indirectly produced all the situations that prompt the need for those "dissing discussions" etc. ...
... which, of course, most other trading forums manage to avoid.
Failing that, perhaps you'd be kind enough to tell me via a rep' comment or PM.
Its because moderators hands are tied behind their backs by a set of week a poorly thought our rules.
Using common sense is out of the question.
Hope no-one's been trying to catch the falling knives
small long 9655
out half here at 9685 for +30
closing other other half here at 9715 +60
meeeeee
(just one of a number of successful knife catches so far today )
Well Dow futures off 600' ftse down getting on for 300. Hope no-one's been trying to catch the falling knives
and i actually made money buying this morning! :clap:
Will PM you shortly, with pleasure, Timsk. Thank you for noticing the conversation.
I know.
And that situation also isn't helped by the forum owner's refusal to intervene in moderational issues because he feels it would be disrespectful to his moderators, who are, after all, unpaid volunteers etc. etc. The only outcome of that (as commented on before, in other threads) is that when something very easily correctable is strikingly unresolved, the moderators effectively say "I agree with you but can do nothing about it" while the owner effectively says "I agree with you but won't interfere". That just leads to an outcome where everyone agrees what the right thing to do is, but nobody does it.
I know. "I agree with you, Charlie, but can do nothing about it" except occasionally pointing it out, myself, in the voice of a "concerned member" (which I am).
LOL, i see Pat Riley, Sigma bullbag is back as "Dantes Infernal"
At least I can put this clown on ignore now!
Amazing it is. DOW is down 1000 or so points on the week, markets are crashing across the world and all we can find to talk about on here is "dissers" or how to scalp a couple of points here and there.
Sharky doesn't intervene in mod matters because he wants the mods to be independent to avoid being accused of moderating in the commercial interests of the site.
Is there any other way to do it? :cheesy:Hope no-one's been trying to catch the falling knives
Exactly so ... but read Charlie's post above to see how some of the moderators feel about that (and he was one of them far more recently than yourself, John, to be fair).
The outcome of that situation is that when something very easily correctable is strikingly unresolved, the moderators effectively say "I agree with you but can do nothing about it" while the owner effectively says "I agree with you but won't interfere". That just leads to an outcome where everyone agrees what the right thing to do is, but nobody does it. Respectfully, John (and I have plenty of respect for you: I'm not saying it just to be polite) your replies to me in this thread can't change that reality - it's factual. Just like it's factual that other trading forums manage this without haemorrhaging members because of the moderation policies and their enforcement.
Since posting in this thread, earlier today, I've had a long message from yet another recently-joined member who's a serious trader and could have contributed a lot, here, explaining why they no longer wish to participate (all the usual reasons, and roughly the same as mine). And unless and until the moderation policies change, that's going to continue to happen, as so many of us have now so consistently been saying for so many years. It's not going to change while people's heads are in the sand about what's happening and why. It's not the moderators' fault.
ok, then maybe a way forward is for you to detail the moderation policy that you think should govern T2W and thread it up to see what members think about it.
I'd be surprised if you come up with anything much different from the site guidelines.
ps: or volunteer to be a mod