andrewmooton - training with insight experiences

[andrewmooton]

Just a quick update.

I've completed the first 6 modules so far, and I am quite impressed.

Stu has always answered my emails promptly and sent out the next modules quickly when I requested them.

If I had payed for this, then so far I wouldnt have been dissapointed.

 

[stuwhisson]

Zenda - sadly isn't CZJ, but you may like to know who HE really is....

Hi Folks

As you know, I prefer honesty all the time and like most, I like to know who I am talking with, more so if they have issue with something I do or have done. Zenda as you may remember, had a real bee in her (his) bonnet about my site, these posts and well it seemed that there was a little bit of 'Insight Bashing' - one of the gripes was that I was using these posts for comercial gain. Now if you saw my website stats and the traffic I get from T2W you would think otherwise.

During the posts with Zenda on this thread I continually asked for his/her identity. Zenda wasn't going to tell me..... but someone else has....

Stand up John Bartlett your time has come...

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/showthread.php?p=133055#post133055

Now I know why!

 

[chump]

Why don't you both let it go..no matter how either of you phrase it your mutual commentary does not leave either of you appearing as I am sure you would wish to appear and this appears to be nothing to do with the posting of 'student' commentary anymore... come on ..if people wish to try you they will anyway...let's move on

 

[Zenda]

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[Trader333]

In reference to John Bartlett in the above quote as

....he thinks T2W should be for sharing freely advice - not for promoting commercial enterprises

Well he must have had a "Road to Damascus Conversion" then as last year he was regularly posting on here with reference to his own site and blatantly advertising at every opportunity. On one occasion he even posted making out he didnt know who he himself was until he was rumbled and then admitted it. Just check this link:

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/showpost.php?p=31824&postcount=22


Paul

 

[Zenda]

Trader333 you shouldnt go there you are a trading instructor who emails people offering to travel to scotland for a fee - or are you acting the innocent!

 

[DaveJB]

Okay,
as previously admitted etc I am Dave who sells, programs, designs and takes out the rubbish for Pfscan, a software program that finds P&F patterns and a bunch of other stuff. My website is listed in my profile, I don't club baby seals, and I wasn't involved in the Kennedy Assassination. (Whoops, EITHER of them).

So, now we know who I am, would anybody else here like to disclose a commercial interest in opinion on this site?

For what it is worth, as much out of curiosity as anything, I paid to access Stu Whisson's site and decided (I repeat earler posts here) it didn't match the way I worked etc BUT I think it would be a good starting point for newbies. Every 'review' I have read here from the members who were given access to Stu's material sounds spot on - ie it is similar enough to my own views of the material to be a legitimate review, there is no sign of tampering that I can detect. So far the reviewers and Mr Whisson have been completeley above board - I cordially (that means in a friendly fashion) invite anyone else who is currently operating an investing service of some type, or who is on any sort of a retainer, (if such a thing exists <g>) to declare an interest - I for one am beginning to wonder what vested interests are in play here!

Honesty should be the default on T2W, not something that is extracted with a crowbar.

Dave

 

[Trader333]

Zenda,

You are very much mistaken, I have not emailed anyone offering to go to Scotland and I explained the scenario where that had happened and that it was a student of mine who did the contacting and I asked them to stop which they did.

If you dont believe me then why not ask Bonnie1000 or (Edited out) whatever they call themselves nowdays and actually ask the name or email address of who contacted them because it wasnt me.

So no you are wrong and I have done no advertising on this site and I will say to you the same that I said to Bonnie1000 at the time and that is that I simply dont need to. This is unlike the many others on this site who post under the guise of giving advice where in reality it is just a veiled advert.

So I challenge you outright to show me where I have posted any adverts on this site in the over 2000 posts that I have made.

Quite frankly this post of yours is utterly pathetic


Paul

 

[alliance]

If you dont believe me then why not ask Bonnie1000 or Alliance or whatever they call themselves nowdays

Whoaaaaaaaaa TRADER!!!

I would be most obliged if u would edit the above post and remove my name!!! Alliance is the one and the only nic I have ever had since I joined this site! I have absolutely no idea who Bonnie 1000 is and have absolutely no connection to her/him. I therefore very much resent the unfounded implication in ur post! Do u think there is only ONE female trader living in Scotland????
Just for the record ~ and for Dave ~ I am as i appear..a relative newbie who lost my trading virginity on April 2nd this year, tho looking @ my trading balance since then one could be forgiven for thinking I started on April 1st and the joke has just continued to run I have absolutely no prior connection to course trainers/system vendors etc etc

Hope that clears that up!

 

[Trader333]

Apologies I will do as requested (although I was told you were one and the same)


Paul

 

[alliance]

Alliance,

Apologies I will do as requested (although I was told you were one and the same)


Paul

Thank you You have been mis-informed! Perhaps u would oblige me by telling me who is taking my GOOD name in vain?

 

[DaveJB]

Hi Alliance,
as far as I recall you are one of the reviewers aren't you? I'm already happy that you are an honest and upright sort anyway<g> I'm not trying to set up as some sort of beauty contest type here, I DON'T have a 'signature' bearing my company or product name etc as I'd view that as a spot of sneaky advertising - I do tend to mention what I do (as a fairly major sideline) if I'm discussing something in my line of business... for example I've been 'upfront' about this when commenting about Updata, as it would dishonest otherwise to post comments without people being aware that I might have a hidden agenda.
If the topic is not relevant to my business particularly then I try not to take every chance to sneak my website url in!

I think that it would be a good idea, given that accusations are flying around, if we 'admitted' who we are. Others could then judge whether we mean what we say or are taking the chance that anonimity provides to do mischief to a competitor.
Stu's site is on spreadbetting, he uses barchart style TA, I specialise in flogging EoD Point and Figure software, I have no connection with his site other than that I took up one of the 'get in before the price goes up' offers for a site sub and have actually done the first few modules - hence I can find much to agree with in the reviews posted, been there, done that myself. I look at several such sites, or other programs, every year - not least to see if there's something clever I can nick!

Dave
(edited to reinsert a missing word - oops!)

 

[alliance]

Hi Alliance,
as far as I recall you are one of the reviewers aren't you?

Yes I am Dave!

I'm already happy that you are an honest and upright sort anyway

Why thank you kind sir :cheesy:

I'm not trying to set up as some sort of beauty contest type here

Thank gawd for that.....I'd have more chance of winning the Dow comp

 

[Trader333]

DaveJB,

I think that it would be a good idea, given that accusations are flying around, if we 'admitted' who we are.

I am unsure what you mean by this ? If I am asked about any "potential services" that I may offer then I will reply but not in the public domain and I never chase people who have shown an interest. Why should I then make any form of admission ? As I have said earlier check my posts and see if you can find anything that indicates that I offer anything or that steers people to any particular site ?

You can also ask a general question of anyone on this site and again ask if I have made any attempts to contact people (who have not asked me directly and where I was only replying to a specific request), if I have tried to solicit business and the answer is no. So I dont see that I have any reason to admit to anything and I prefer to keep a low profile which I will continue to attempt to do into the future.


Paul

 

[chump]

I have read 100's of posts by trader 333.. indeed no flattery intended I make a point of reading them because he is one of the very few posters who supplies answers to questions that are not loaded to the gunnels with biased opinion as opposed to simple factual observation...in the course of that reading i have never, repeat never, seen one iota of commerciality ! In my view he appears as the two proponents above might wish to appear if they could only control their impulses.....

 

[DaveJB]

Paul,
in which case you've been doing the same as me, and as I think that's the right way to post on here you'll get no argument about it - what I'm referring to is the way identifications of poster A as really Mr XYZ, only to have Mr XYZ come back and say no, he's somebody else, is getting very messy for some reason on this thread... we've had at least one poster rather hammering the reviewers on here who may or may not (allegedly, apparently) be in competiton with the site under review - I'm definitely NOT having any sort of go at you in this, I'm simply inviting anyone whose posting comments on here to declare any vested interest they might have in rubbishing or hyping the site in question.

Sorry, but you read more into it than was intended - I apologise, as I obviously didn't phrase it adequately.
Dave

 

[stuwhisson]

One final word regarding Zenda:

Zenda you said in a previous post on this thread, that you offered training. The training that you offer is identical to that of John Bartlett, in terms of price and topic covered. You also said that if people emailed you, they could know more about the course and the website..... I would like to know more please. I've shown you mine, now let me look at yours (ahem.... hmmm could be misread that!). You can IM here or email me at [email protected]

Now, I have said that I will say this......

It seems I have opened up a hornets nest, inadvertently - DaveJB is correct, in that the thread is looking a little messy. I think I speak for most here, in that we try and keep it on track, keep focused on the aim of the thread (reviewers views on training from Insight). I also think it highly important that those that are commercially related in terms of being a competitor or otherwise should indeed stand up and be counted. So that we can understand that persons view better, rather than it be hidden behind a nickname.

Anyone that has tried the course are welcome to comment, as their views are equally important. Those interested in the reviewers opinions and have a question are of course welcome. Those that wish to offer views in an attempt to damage the thread because it is a competitors service under review; are not welcome regardless of whether you are Catherine Zeta Jones (and I thought things were going so well for you and Michael) or whoever (Zenda, JB hmmm) , are not welcome - as this throws the thread from its main aim. Unless that is, you make a point of telling us who you really are (Zenda, JB and whoever else) - DaveJB (I wouldn't really class you as a competitor).

There got that off my chest.... I think we all can see who's being upfront and honest and who isn't. The end of the day, those that wish to hide and pretend to be someone else will eventually end up being found out (or have already been found out) and shoot themselves in the foot in the process and look foolish.

 

[DaveJB]

<<< DaveJB (I wouldn't really class you as a competitor). >>>

Oooh, what a nasty thing to say!
(Grinning, I'm only joking! <g>)

 

[Zenda]

 

[TheBramble]

Stu, Zenda/CZJ/JB - as an individual (me) with no vested interest other than to participate on these boards on issues related to trading, can I suggest you both consider calling a halt, if only temporarily, to (subdued) hostilities. [By all means carry on in private].

While I acknowledge this thread would 'in principle' have not drawn so much fire had it been located on the 'commercial' forum, the mods/admin have decided to let it stay here.

Stu - you have nothing to gain by (effectively) drowning out your students' largely positive comments on your course.

Zenda - you have nothing to gain (however right you might feel your position to be) in continuing this line. It could be construed at competitive sabotage or sour grapes. In either case, it doesn't look good for you.

If the next post on this thread comes from either of you two - you've lost!

Students - take back your thread!!!!