lifestyle trader

Hi there,

I'm looking for info on Rob Wilson (Aussie Rob) and his lifestyle trader software. I am trying to stop someone who is throwing their money to the wind on his software but unfortunately they are brainwashed. Heard he has some connection with Jamie McIntyre who also owns 21stCenturyPersonalLoans.au.

I'm pretty sure whoever says they have 'the answer' is lying. The problem is this 'person' also has no understanding of the forex markets at all which makes it worse and Rob Wilson has managed to convince them that this doesn't matter. They are really ploughing the money away in hope.

Any info would be really helpful.

Jamie Mc Intyre is connected to 'Aussie Rob' because when he does 'seminars' on wealth (which you have to pay for) he allows all other people with their seminars to try and sell their product which is always at a 'cheap price' of only $5K + ....lol....

Personally I have been to a seminar of Jamie McIntyre and it made me angry because for 3 whole days they were going from presenter to presenter and evey single one of them just wanted to sell.

I don't trust them .... to be a successful trader one needs time, experience and capital - if it was so easy to become a successful trader after buying a course most people would be doing it... anyway thats my 2 cents worth.

Lifestyle Trader is a wonderful product just check all of the """"testimonials""""(( that you will find all over the place. The charts seem to work when you look at what has happened. But when you watch them the and when you go back the signals have quite frequently changed - a moving average system the lines are dependant upon what the market has done not what it is going to to do as they will try to tell you at the lifestyle trader blurb - nobody can predict what markets are going to do. Tell your friend to ask his licensee (the one he brought it from) for help at each and every turn. Especially ask for help to formulate a trading plan, this by the way does not consist of the sheet that is part of lifestyle trader that only lists the trade information, it also should include your list of rules for getting into any trade and risk management. Risk Management is the big one and needs to be understood and not covered anywhere by Lifestyle Trader (apart from the disclaimer that appears everywhere - you can lose lots of money by trading) you cant go willy nilly into trades just because the lines cross and tell you to you must know whether the reward warrants the risk you will be taking as so often I have found out that it is easy to have 9 small winners and one large loser that will take you well and truly into a loss situation. Yes we are Lifestyle Trader purchasers but slick marketing has left us with a data feed that costs a lot and instalments that cost a lot also and not enough information or couyrage to enter the market again.

old girl said:

nobody can predict what markets are going to do.

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Nobody can predict what the market is certain to do, but a skilled trader can predict what it is likely to do. Otherwise we would all be trying to make a living by flipping coins for cash.

Lifestyle Trader References

old girl said:

Lifestyle Trader is a wonderful product just check all of the """"testimonials""""(( that you will find all over the place. The charts seem to work when you look at what has happened.

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Old Girl - I just had the chance to preview the product and am considering purchasing it. A close friend bought it and has seen decent results paper trading for the last month. I do have some reservations though. Can you provide any further feedback? Did you follow the strategies they recommend? I know money management is a major part of the game and I think the system may be flawed in that respect... It;s easy to see profits when you have unlimited "money" to play with. I like the easy to understand concept of supply and demand but can;t find anywhere where they get their daily numbers of buyers and sellers. Any further feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Skill Leverage said:

Nobody can predict what the market is certain to do, but a skilled trader can predict what it is likely to do. Otherwise we would all be trying to make a living by flipping coins for cash.

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ok with you! But does having an opinion mean doing a prediction?

i may have the opinion that all Yorkshiremen are knobheads but i cannot predict whether Skills will twat me in the face or not, although I can have a pretty good idea .....

Dont know what slick marketing blurb is being touted now, have found that everything on the net that is negative seems to get sanitised very quickly but I can vouch there are no users in traders clubs that are too keen to speak out as they all feel fools for letting themselves be ripped off so if you dont want to get shafted dont buy it. They teach you nothing and you can not i repeat CAN NOT enter and exit trades on a pair of red and green lines crossing. There is more to this trading bizzo, a lot more - the home study course is a joke, when you first buy this you are so busy "learning" and going round and round in circles that you get dizzy from the task of trying to locate the information that you thought was going to be supplied in the home study course (by the way - you can find most of the dvd content on you tube as ads for this product, in hindsight they are good for a laugh). The learning process keeps you so busy that unless you are totally computer literate, a great record keeper and not too analytical you will fail the basic tasks to comply with the money back guarantee that is trade all signals, dont look or think about anything else just trade everything as he tells you to. Just keep a record you will need it and plenty of persistance to get out of this alive. Only thing here is that you need to trade everything and you need to have a large kitty to do this, in his newsletter the trades he does are not the only crosses for that month there have been a lot of crosses that lost and lost big for a huge margin so only words i have are BEWARE, BE AWARE and RUN AWAY FAST, VERY FAST.

Aussie Rob

Hi Jamoola
Have you found out any information following your post? I would be interested if you have. Messages and information I have seen are very mixed.
Attiva

jamoola said:

Hi there,

I'm looking for info on Rob Wilson (Aussie Rob) and his lifestyle trader software. I am trying to stop someone who is throwing their money to the wind on his software but unfortunately they are brainwashed. Heard he has some connection with Jamie McIntyre who also owns 21stCenturyPersonalLoans.au.

I'm pretty sure whoever says they have 'the answer' is lying. The problem is this 'person' also has no understanding of the forex markets at all which makes it worse and Rob Wilson has managed to convince them that this doesn't matter. They are really ploughing the money away in hope.

Any info would be really helpful.

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Originally Posted by old girl
nobody can predict what markets are going to do.

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Skill Leverage said:

Nobody can predict what the market is certain to do, but a skilled trader can predict what it is likely to do.

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And a highly-skilled trader can understand what the market is doing right now, instead of predicting anything. Otherwise, he would be a 'fortune-teller', not a trader :whistling

All these guys are marketers who happen to sell stuff related to trading and the markets.

Now, if the markets were banned tomorrow I doubt they'd worry because within a few weeks they would have modified their literature and websites and would be promoting something else where mugs think they can get rich easy and quick by not doing too much.

Potential buyers you've all been warned and when, not if, you don;t get the results you think you should be getting please look in the mirror as that's the person to blame.

don't take this personally, just being cruel to be kind

cuotes said:

And a highly-skilled trader can understand what the market is doing right now, instead of predicting anything. Otherwise, he would be a 'fortune-teller', not a trader :whistling

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Understanding what the market is doing right now? Good luck making money with that. A trader needs to be able to make predictions and act on them; when you enter a trade, are you doing it because of what you see is happening this very second, or what you believe will happen in the near/distant future? If you ever have entered a trade that is.

P.S 'Money is just a consequence' - you're in trading for the camaraderie then are you? Plop.

:whistling

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Skill Leverage said:

Understanding what the market is doing right now?

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Yes

Of course, I expect the price won't go against me after I open the position. And I expect so, based on what I assume the market is doing right now (not the price).

I know, it sounds weird. Specially my distinction between market and price.
I don't want to be boring. In case anybody interested, we could discuss it in further detail.

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Regarding my signature. Money is just a consequence. A result, an outcome, an effect, an upshot.
What else?

'expect' is far, far worse than 'predict' imo, but if you don't want to be boring we probably shouldn't continue this discussion.

Oh no, let's continue

Maybe you're right. Expect could be worse than predict at some extent.

I'll try to explain my point of view.

One of the first things I learnt was some basics on TA, like trends or triangles. Later indicators like RSI, MACD, ATR... dozens of them. And after that, candlestick patterns.

For a long time, i was developing systems and backtesting them again and again. Not actually trading in the beginning, since i used to work as engineer, but reading books and programming in my free time.

After hundreds of combinations, i can say that i found several systems that showed passable results, and even a few of them showed quite good results.
In theory. In backtestings.

There was always something. A feeling. No system truly convinced me. Even when eventually i was using one based on volatility and i made some little money.

Still, i felt that i was missing something. I couldn't see the big picture. But I didn't know at that time.

What I was trying to do was getting information from the past, and using it to predict the future.
This approach is like "I hope that past behaviours, will repeat again and again".

The root of the problem, IMHO, is not so much the using of past info as it is the 'foretelling' (not sure if english grammar correct in this sentence)

Recently, I've been reading Brett Steenbarger's blog, and a book called 'Steildmayer on Markets'.

They look at the market from a new point of view. ( New to me, Steildmayer did it 20 years ago )
The general idea is "reading" what the market is doing now. Put that information into a framework, and try to catch sight of wtf is happening out there.

Based on this info, i'll take one decision or another.



The key point is
stop telling the market what he has to do, and begin to listen to him.



yeah, i know. pretty long. If someone survived and found it interesting, we can continue

Old Girl maybe the issue is you not the system

I have being trading live with ARLT for around year focusing on grains, softs and also options and i have made a good amount of monry the problem with people is they want something that will work 100% of the time with no effort thats not trading you still need to put in the work and there is no holly grail. Trading is not as easy as people think when you first start out. For the coomodities you do need a good size account and they reccomended to me $40k us if you dint have that then options is a good choice and returns a good amount.

old girl said:

Dont know what slick marketing blurb is being touted now, have found that everything on the net that is negative seems to get sanitised very quickly but I can vouch there are no users in traders clubs that are too keen to speak out as they all feel fools for letting themselves be ripped off so if you dont want to get shafted dont buy it. They teach you nothing and you can not i repeat CAN NOT enter and exit trades on a pair of red and green lines crossing. There is more to this trading bizzo, a lot more - the home study course is a joke, when you first buy this you are so busy "learning" and going round and round in circles that you get dizzy from the task of trying to locate the information that you thought was going to be supplied in the home study course (by the way - you can find most of the dvd content on you tube as ads for this product, in hindsight they are good for a laugh). The learning process keeps you so busy that unless you are totally computer literate, a great record keeper and not too analytical you will fail the basic tasks to comply with the money back guarantee that is trade all signals, dont look or think about anything else just trade everything as he tells you to. Just keep a record you will need it and plenty of persistance to get out of this alive. Only thing here is that you need to trade everything and you need to have a large kitty to do this, in his newsletter the trades he does are not the only crosses for that month there have been a lot of crosses that lost and lost big for a huge margin so only words i have are BEWARE, BE AWARE and RUN AWAY FAST, VERY FAST.

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Hi All,

I am writing to this forum is because I am a victum of the Aussie rob. I will make the long story short. The system which they are selling is a joke. If you have a charting progam, you simply use 2 moving average (3 and 5 day) to generate as they claimed the "supply and demand" line. If you are a current AR user, better stop the subscription and you can have your on Red/Green line for free! Beside, Simple MA won't make you sucess in trading!

Thompson

I have joined this simply because I have just searched to read what people have said about Lifstyle Trader.
I know this is an old forum and I am late to read, I am using Lifestyle trader and have used it for 1 year, doing paper trading and making sure I had the best system that I could work out paper trading, I don't have a massive account, I have less than 10k to trade with but after my first month last month of making 30% profit I can say this works, I am not an experienced trader and I have not done any other trading, I am trading Forex and doing well from it so far, I will probably come back to add to this but sofar this month we are still up.

I can see the amount of negativity there is on here, and for a good trader, a successful one, this sort of thing is not good at all. You guys all need to have a mindset calibration.

I will say, I have had trades that have lost, about 50% of them, but when you have wins that travel upto 130% then this cant be all that bad can it?