ART - not just pretty pics

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

Art is big big money and therefore should interest any of you guys.
Not only do pictures by famous artists tend to appreciate in value, they also go in and out of fashion. Their value is determined in the general market by auction and on appraisal by experts. There is of course only a limited number of pictures that any one artist can paint, which raises their worth especially when the artist dies.
This picture by Claude Monet is worth millions of £s

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

Do put up your favourite pics whether ancient or modern. I personally like The Impressionist school of art.

sminicooper · Dec 6, 2016

Here's one from the Society of Wild Life Artists that I bought with my pocket money from trading:

Not worth millions (yet) but you can buy art for investment and/or pleasure. After a while it can become like trading where the pleasure of a good trade outweighs the monetary gain (provided you're not skint of course!)

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

The trouble with the art market is that except for acknowledged works the market is a bit illiquid. I know from first hand experience how hard it is to get started. It takes more than talent.
The Saatchi model is interesting and he made many millions from it. He sought out unknown artists with talent and bought their entire collection cheaply. Then he would exhibit the new talent in his prestigious galleries at vastly inflated prices.

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

As someone once said, an appreciation of art is the difference between a savage and a civilized person.

tomorton · Dec 6, 2016

Love art.
Hate artists though.

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

The Great Master

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

sminicooper said:
Here's one from the Society of Wild Life Artists that I bought with my pocket money from trading:

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Not worth millions (yet) but you can buy art for investment and/or pleasure. After a while it can become like trading where the pleasure of a good trade outweighs the monetary gain (provided you're not skint of course!)

Just as a matter of interest in the smaller market for art.
Is the artist well known ?
How long ago was it painted ?
what did you pay for it, if you don't mind my asking ?
It's value has probably risen as has everything else.
It has a very nice oriental stylised look.

sminicooper · Dec 6, 2016

Pat494 said:
Just as a matter of interest in the smaller market for art.
Is the artist well known ?
How long ago was it painted ?
what did you pay for it, if you don't mind my asking ?
It's value has probably risen as has everything else.
It has a very nice oriental stylised look.

A leading artist in the wildlife world. She is an expert at linocut prints. Very much sought after - limited runs of never more than 40 but often less due to mechanics of reproduction. This one her latest & introduced only a few weeks ago and nearly sold out already. Specialises in Norfolk scenes. Prices very reasonable - around the £300 area. I have a reasonably large collection of her work which is always in demand secondhand but I keep them because I like them.
Website here: http://www.maxangus.co.uk/index.html (unfortunately most sold out but website doesn't tell you that)

Other good artists here: http://www.mallgalleries.org.uk/cli...MainAdvert&gclid=CPDXzIeD4NACFQoB0wodF18Byg&f[0]=field_medium%3A44&f[1]=field_subject%3A46

sminicooper · Dec 6, 2016

Another fine Norfolk (and Shetlands) landscape artist is Nicholas Barnham - watercolours and prints. He's now an elderly gentleman and I've been collecting him for years - prices now increasing and original work much sought after secondhand. Angus & Barnham's Norfolk work is visually complementary (IMHO). Myself & her ladyship have always bought art (we do art deco stuff also!) that we like: if it increases in value then that's a bonus. Difficult to go wrong if you buy quality (the art-collecting millionaires of this world aren't stupid are they?) unless, for some reason it goes out of fashion. But if you like it - who cares?

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

Living in Cornwall I am quite close to that centre of art in St. Ives.
Prices aren't cheap though.

sminicooper · Dec 6, 2016

This was one of the submissions for the 2016 Turner prize: but is it art?

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

sminicooper said:
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This was one of the submissions for the 2016 Turner prize: but is it art?

I love Turner's work. Very clever and original for its time. The rubbish entered for the Turner prize imho abuses his name.
Wish they would rename it as the crap prize or something more suitable.

sminicooper · Dec 6, 2016

For something different I like the Spanish artist Miro. I have a couple of prints in this style and they really brighten up the wall on a dull winter day – not everyone's cup of tea I suspect though. Shame my prints aren't originals (even the lithos were quite expensive) because I suspect they would be worth a bob or two by now! (As I tell the few artists I know: you've got to be dead before you can become famous).

metrader · Dec 6, 2016

$300 million - the highest price for a painting to date ( Interchange by Willem de Kooning)

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

metrader said:
$300 million - the highest price for a painting to date ( Interchange by Willem de Kooning)

That's an awful lot of money for.........er quite what. But somebody must like it I suppose.

Pat494 · Dec 6, 2016

This is a clever use of bright colours and light.

forker · Dec 6, 2016

Atilla · Dec 6, 2016

Pat494 said:
This is a clever use of bright colours and light.

You are getting carried away here Pat. Rich colours maybe but that scene is made up to attract the eye with all those reds.

Not natural as one does not find such vibrant colours in a forest bed.

Hate to break it to you.

That one is -10 imo.

Ask for your money back. :cheesy:

sminicooper · Dec 6, 2016

A great modern American artist was Edward Hopper. Here's two of his best known works.

There was an excellent exhibition of his work at the V&A a few years ago. Hopper original paintings are a bit too much for my wallet; here's my solution: Use Windows Snipping tool to make images for the screensaver - set it to change every 5 mins or so (or whatever interval you like) and you have a private viewing gallery on each of your screens to alleviate the view of your 99 indicators/max drawdown/stop-encroaching spike/missed top or bottom.

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