LTG Goldrock and double standards

pb,
You need to talk to your ISP provider - the date on that offer 6th September 2010!!!
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timsk said:
pb,
You need to talk to your ISP provider - the date on that offer 6th September 2010!!!
:LOL:
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You miss the point entirely, criticism of this outfit was deleted, a thread containing praise about them was not only allowed to stand but was closed preventing anyone from giving an alternative point of view. The T2W partner offer is still on the web stating "As a valued T2W member, you are eligible to take advantage of the following promotion...".
 
barjon said:
that's good :), but then I expect the naysayers will accuse T2W of a cover up - can't win really!!
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No I think it's common knowledge that Barnett, Baghdady and Secker were all T2W partners at one time.
 
pboyles said:
You miss the point entirely, criticism of this outfit was deleted, a thread containing praise about them was not only allowed to stand but was closed preventing anyone from giving an alternative point of view. The T2W partner offer is still on the web stating "As a valued T2W member, you are eligible to take advantage of the following promotion...".
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pb,
With respect, it's you who misses the point.
As the Mods have made clear, the oversight has been corrected. That's all it is - an oversight - not some grand conspiracy as you'd have members believe. As for the closed thread - this subject has been 'debated' ad infinitum on previous threads.
Tim.
 
As previously stated the remaining page will be removed once the Tech team are informed. It is possible there are other pages that are still active that have been forgotten about. It is an oversight and nothing more.
 
pboyles said:
No I think it's common knowledge that Barnett, Baghdady and Secker were all T2W partners at one time.
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In 2010 in this case.
As a matter of interest pb, ETX Capital have a skyscraper ad' running down the side of this thread. If, for the sake of argument, in a couple of years time someone alleges on an internet forum that they are in breach of certain financial regularities - will you accuse T2W of double standards? On the basis of this thread, I suspect the answer is yes.

I think lots of people respect and admire your work in protecting the innocent and naive from scammers. Trying to implicate T2W as being complicit in such activity really doesn't help your cause and, quite possibly, alienates the very people you claim to be trying to protect. As I've said before, we want to do everything we can to protect T2W members from the rogues. You can either work with us in this endeavour or against us - the choice is yours.
Tim.
 
timsk said:
In 2010 . As I've said before, we want to do everything we can to protect T2W members from the rogues. You can either work with us in this endeavour or against us - the choice is yours.
Tim.
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Remind me again what T2Ws contribution will be to this joint endeavour?

As for ETX they are an MT4 broker who are proud sponsors of Greg Secker (their words). There's no chance of a scandal there in future, you can sleep safe.
 
timsk said:
As for the closed thread - this subject has been 'debated' ad infinitum on previous threads.
Tim.
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Its never really been resolved.

When a training provider claims that a part time housewife regularly makes returns in excess of 1000% within a few minutes, that should possibly ring alarm bells

What financial instruments offer that kind of volatility ?
What brokers offer that kind of leverage ?

These are basic practical constraints that should raise a red flag, and I am still waiting for a response from anyone on the t2w staff to give me a practical example of when such trades, given the constraints mentioned above could actually be taken.

I have emailed the company in question, and they so far have failed to give examples of when directional moves of sufficient magnitude are occurring in order to generate those kinds of returns.

I do know of one pro trader who made returns of slightly less than one third of whats being claimed, but it took them a year to achieve it rather than the 20 or so minutes as claimed by Goldrocks trainer. Its also worth noting that this particular trader lost over 98% of the value of their fund in the subsequent year.

Goldrock claims to have not one, but countless students making triple and quadruple digit returns, within minutes, and doing it day after day. You can call me an old skeptic, but until someone gives an example on a chart, or provides suitably audited accounts, I shall retain my doubts about these particular claims.
 
the hare said:
Goldrock claims to have not one, but countless students making triple and quadruple digit returns, within minutes, and doing it day after day. You can call me an old skeptic, but until someone gives an example on a chart, or provides suitably audited accounts, I shall retain my doubts about these particular claims.
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Hi the hare,
I completely respect your right to do exactly as you espouse and to question such claims - as you say you do in an earlier paragraph in your post. Indeed, personally, I welcome any contribution you might make regarding the outcome of your correspondence with the companies concerned. That's in the best interests of the T2W membership. That said, criticizing T2W for an association with XYZ company going back several years or more doesn't strike me as being especially helpful to anyone. I'm sure many T2W members will have - or work for - businesses that have accounts with Barclays Bank or one of the other banks implicated in the latest banking scandal. By your logic - and that of pboyles & Co - they are complicit in the activities of said banks. I struggle to sympathise with this 'logic' and, my guess is, that most other T2W members will take the same view.
Tim.
 
the hare said:
Its never really been resolved.

When a training provider claims that a part time housewife regularly makes returns in excess of 1000% within a few minutes, that should possibly ring alarm bells

What financial instruments offer that kind of volatility ?
What brokers offer that kind of leverage ?

These are basic practical constraints that should raise a red flag, and I am still waiting for a response from anyone on the t2w staff to give me a practical example of when such trades, given the constraints mentioned above could actually be taken.

I have emailed the company in question, and they so far have failed to give examples of when directional moves of sufficient magnitude are occurring in order to generate those kinds of returns.

I do know of one pro trader who made returns of slightly less than one third of whats being claimed, but it took them a year to achieve it rather than the 20 or so minutes as claimed by Goldrocks trainer. Its also worth noting that this particular trader lost over 98% of the value of their fund in the subsequent year.

Goldrock claims to have not one, but countless students making triple and quadruple digit returns, within minutes, and doing it day after day. You can call me an old skeptic, but until someone gives an example on a chart, or provides suitably audited accounts, I shall retain my doubts about these particular claims.
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It's interesting that you bring these returns figures up.

I'm actually contemplating starting a 1 to 100k thread and I will be trying to achieve that in as short a time as possible. Would that make me a fraud or a scammer etc ! :LOL:
 
pboyles said:
Remind me again what T2Ws contribution will be to this joint endeavour?

As for ETX they are an MT4 broker who are proud sponsors of Greg Secker (their words). There's no chance of a scandal there in future, you can sleep safe.
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pb,
T2W is a discussion forum, period. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not the moral guardian of every retail trader on the planet or on some crusade to question every statement or action of every company in the sector. If you want to fill what you clearly perceive to be a massive chasm - go right ahead. Put your own head and money on the line and stop trying to get T2W to do your dirty work for you!
Tim.
 
pboyles said:
................As for ETX they are an MT4 broker who are proud sponsors of Greg Secker (their words). There's no chance of a scandal there in future, you can sleep safe..................
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That is just the sort of derogatory association that I think is unfair.

I happen to have a small account with ETX - not MT4 yet - and I am happy enough with their service. I might raise my eyebrows at the "proud sponsors" bit, but it doesn't impact one jot on the service I receive from them.

To follow up on Tim's point, does it make a product a worse product just because someone whom they sponsor later turns out to be a rogue?
 
barjon said:
That is just the sort of derogatory association that I think is unfair.

I happen to have a small account with ETX - not MT4 yet - and I am happy enough with their service. I might raise my eyebrows at the "proud sponsors" bit, but it doesn't impact one jot on the service I receive from them.

To follow up on Tim's point, does it make a product a worse product just because someone whom they sponsor later turns out to be a rogue?
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It does if they are directing their clients to the services of the company or person they are sponsoring or offering discounts for the services. I'm not talking about a few banner ads but a direct 2-way relationship.

Peter
 
timsk said:
pb,
T2W is a discussion forum, period. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not the moral guardian of every retail trader on the planet or on some crusade to question every statement or action of every company in the sector.
Tim.
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Well clearly not, but you do however claim to offer a professional trading resource that promotes mature, intelligent & respectful discussion in a positive & safe environment for everyone.

Any rational person should understand that a business has its own agenda, and acts in its own best interests, and that's as it should be.

I'm not sure how you can justify the sites mission statement if content that is essentially true, but detrimental to the interests if advertisers is censored or removed.

Discussion isn't exactly being promoted, its being censored. On the few occasions where censorship has allowed various charlatans to continue to prey on the inexperienced, well that cant really be described as providing a positive or safe environment.

You'll no doubt accuse me of splitting hairs and being deliberately confrontational, but the reason that these threads don't go away, is that the issue is never really resolved to anyone's satisfaction

This is a dirty and immoral industry, and surely allowing and even encouraging discussion of those issues and concerns must fall under t2w's remit
 
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