Winners Win - discuss

like in Business and life ......most people are

ill-advised
ill-equipped
highly Gullable
under-educated
inexperienced (with no desire to improve)
under-resourced
lazy
easily distracted
looking for the easy option (pun)


...........to ever be truly successful in a field of true endeavor

the best traders here at T2W will not have achieved success in just Trading..... I can guarantee that .....

Winners win - whatever they chose to do
 
Me ?

I'm not a full time trader (yet)......but seem to do ok most days I trade after far far too many years of trying

Traits ? / Successes ?

yep - looking back i have a relatively decent track record of achievement in my Personal and Professional life that mirrors the passion , effort and blind determination I apply to my Trading research and ambitions

and I would pull out the following real X factors

Passion for the subject/Task
Dogged determination and refusal to give up

the rest is detail .........

so whats your story ?

N
 
Winners Win. They also lose. But being a winner is a mind-set, not a function of the last deal or trade.

Not that you can separate humanity into Winner and Losers. Losers certainly lose before they even start precisely because they have a losing mind-set. And they’ll give up after one (and increasingly less likely) more losing deals or trades – making way for the next loser. They treat every set-back as a calamity rather than just something else to be sorted out on the way. They look for problems not with an eye to mitigation or remediation, but with a view to concocting a rationale for giving up.

The 3rd category and by far the largest in number are those that never attempt anything out of the ordinary: The very definition of average. They neither succeed nor fail and are none the worse for it in themselves being largely oblivious of their condition with only infrequent fleeting feelings of lack and emptiness of something ineffable which is what their lives could have been, and still could be if they would only wake up. But the vast majority sleep peacefully on.

Having a winning mind-set is not enough in itself either. An idiot can have (or kid themselves they have) a winning mind-set. No. It needs a genuine belief in bringing something about; that it can be done and that you can do it, somehow. You’ll find a way. Nothing else matters. Focus and determination without requiring effort of motivation. Tis is key. Winners don’t get flagged and tired while the idea is unfulfilled, they persevere with genuine pleasure in the act of bringing it about and with a sense of enjoyment. If it’s hard work, you’re doing something wrong and you’ll stop at the flimsiest excuse. If that’s the case, find something else to champion. And finally taking action to bring it about. It’s that final bit that separates the winners from those that just tried and failed.
 
Hi B

was hoping you would chip in to get this show on the road...........

great comments and very humble...as you were kind enough to share a little of your track record with me in PM's

Thanks
N
 
In a way I always felt that my life till the point of achieving success as a trader was training for something, I just didn't know what...to some extent I still don't as it remains a journey not a destination even on this side of 'success,' and I am always open to new ideas/challenges.

Whether winners are born or created I am not sure but the post above by Bramble certainly puts into sharp text ideas that we can understand and probably relate to.

G/L
 
What would Prince Charles have been had he not been born into privilage?
 
Tra il dire e il fare c'e' di mezzo il mare.

"An ocean lies between what is said and what is done".
 
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The other thing about Winners...... is that they will sacrifice everything for the pursuit of winning or the prize....

this is usually when they are still young and inexperienced in the fuller ways of the world and they do not realise the true sacrifices being made in losing family friends, health , money and anything else that has to go over the side to win

To be the best nothing can come in your way :devilish:

this truth is hidden mostly when we see the colourful disney stories of success and winners ........but read the Biographies that are more gritty truthful and you see the repeating patterns of what it takes

usually in the aftermath of the winners Winning period the 2nd or 3rd wife (husband) is being paraded around and everyone is happily relaxing in the multimillion dollar mansion and laughing together ......

but that aint a shadow of the creature who made the money in the first place

the Disney image of winners is not the full truth .....;)

and its worth thinking about that when you read the advertisements for how to become a successful and very wealthy trader .......

N
 
Winners Win as discussed already ......no matter what the cost


Churchill
Thatcher
Tiger Woods
Lance Armstrong
Donald Trump
Sir Alan Sugar
Duncan Ballantyne
Clive Woodward
James Cracknell
John Macenroe

etc etc .......c'mon......theres thousands of names

N
 
Winners Win as discussed already ......no matter what the cost


Churchill
Thatcher
Tiger Woods
Lance Armstrong
Donald Trump
Sir Alan Sugar
Duncan Ballantyne
Clive Woodward
James Cracknell
John Macenroe

etc etc .......c'mon......theres thousands of names

N

Perhaps Nassim Taleb might say that the statement is not true since there are many more who sacrifice all to win yet simply do not make it. The failed marriages, ill health, friendlessness etc. are still suffered but do not appear in the stats. meaning that you only count the winners leaving thousands out of the picture. Thus anyone thinking they only have to sacrifice all to win are not looking at the true figures. Bit like X Factor I suppose...many apply, few are chosen, fewer still ever win.:|
 
fair point N.........

I like Nassims work....

although in my opinion this second book was not as good as the Black swan

and the film version was very dissapointing....... apart from the Lesbian scenes ;)

N
 
What would Prince Charles have been had he not been born into privilage?

A failed gardener having been sacked for talking to plants.
And one day he might be king and she queen.
Many thanks to the inventor of self-adhesive stamps......
 
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A failed gardener having been sacked for talking to plants.
And one day he might be king and she queen.
Many thanks to the inventor of self-adhesive stamps......

One could put his agricultural oddities down to in-breeding ?
:LOL:
 
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