DiamondLake
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Hi,
I am currently looking at the possibility of buying a house. I don't think that it is a good time to do so but, because I may be made redundant and have to work as a contractor, I am likely going to be in the situation that I buy one now, or have to wait three years and then still not be able to get the mortgage I need.
The reason that I don't think it is a good time to buy is that I consider that there is much more potential downside in the house prices than upside, with potentially a lot of downside over the next 2-3 years.
Therefore, if I do end up buying, I am keen to hedge against a market fall if at all possible.
I am only starting to look at approaches, but I noticed that in the latest issue of Investors Chronicle, it was suggested that spreadbetting against the Halifax House Price Index, might be one way to go.
The houses that I would be looking to buy are in the range of about £500,000 - so I would suspect that to completely hedge I would need to take out a position of £5,000 a percentage point.
Then if we get the fall that I fear (30%) I think that position would be worth £150,000 and if we get the maximum increase that I predict (10%) I think I would be down £50,000.
Because that potential £50K loss is substantial I would ideally like to buy put options on the index, although I would expect that they would be expensive, and people generally seem to suggest spreads.
Because spread betting is completely new to me, I wondered if anybody could please give me a bit of a reality check in terms of whether this is a good approach. If I buy the house I will still have access to £200,000 (with about £50K cash and £150,000 invested in equities), plus enough income to cover the mortgage and living expenses.
I would imagine putting a stop at about 10%, and I do anticipate wanting to hedge for the next 2-3 years to see what the market is going to do next.
I understand that by doing that I really make the property a zero sum gain, because any increase in house price is going by negated by the loss on the spread.
One thing that I don't understand is how much that kind of spread is going to cost me to finance, whether the index stays put or whether it moves in one direction or the other.
As I say, I am just exploring possibilities at the moment, so any advice, including brutal honesty is more that welcome.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Martin
I am currently looking at the possibility of buying a house. I don't think that it is a good time to do so but, because I may be made redundant and have to work as a contractor, I am likely going to be in the situation that I buy one now, or have to wait three years and then still not be able to get the mortgage I need.
The reason that I don't think it is a good time to buy is that I consider that there is much more potential downside in the house prices than upside, with potentially a lot of downside over the next 2-3 years.
Therefore, if I do end up buying, I am keen to hedge against a market fall if at all possible.
I am only starting to look at approaches, but I noticed that in the latest issue of Investors Chronicle, it was suggested that spreadbetting against the Halifax House Price Index, might be one way to go.
The houses that I would be looking to buy are in the range of about £500,000 - so I would suspect that to completely hedge I would need to take out a position of £5,000 a percentage point.
Then if we get the fall that I fear (30%) I think that position would be worth £150,000 and if we get the maximum increase that I predict (10%) I think I would be down £50,000.
Because that potential £50K loss is substantial I would ideally like to buy put options on the index, although I would expect that they would be expensive, and people generally seem to suggest spreads.
Because spread betting is completely new to me, I wondered if anybody could please give me a bit of a reality check in terms of whether this is a good approach. If I buy the house I will still have access to £200,000 (with about £50K cash and £150,000 invested in equities), plus enough income to cover the mortgage and living expenses.
I would imagine putting a stop at about 10%, and I do anticipate wanting to hedge for the next 2-3 years to see what the market is going to do next.
I understand that by doing that I really make the property a zero sum gain, because any increase in house price is going by negated by the loss on the spread.
One thing that I don't understand is how much that kind of spread is going to cost me to finance, whether the index stays put or whether it moves in one direction or the other.
As I say, I am just exploring possibilities at the moment, so any advice, including brutal honesty is more that welcome.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Martin