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Hi guys,

Im new to the forum but Ive been looking through it and I think the advice is good. That is why Im laying myself open to critisism.

Im 28, got a 3rd class degree, and 3 C's in A-levels (and B in General Studies). Anyway Im not looking for a pure trading position, but Im more interested in sales trading, broking or private banking (you can probably tell I like talking!). Ive been applying for roles in the last month but Ive had little or no response. When I have had rejections Ive asked for feedback and not received any. I know there are a few things against me including the economy but I was hoping for harsh but fair critique from your wisened minds. Below is my CV and a recent example of a cover letter (it is quite long and anyone who does read it I am indebted to you for your patience):

Cover letter:

Dear xxx,

I would like to express my interest in trainee broker positions. Throughout my job search, previous experience and conversations with finance advisors I have come to respect the professionalism and nature of the broking industry. I am confident that the values and objectives of this career would highly complement my own strengths and enthusiasm. I would like to be considered for this role which requires commitment and refined analytical and communication skills.

I was impressed to learn of the firm’s long history of continually adapting and asserting itself in such a competitive market. I myself have previously worked at Goldman Sachs as a Futures Clearer which brought me into contact with many competing brokers. Having dealt with xxx staff I was infused with a respect that was borne from seeing the dedication and high standards of their employees first hand. This research and direct experience has convinced me that this firm is the ideal environment to pursue my business career.

Evidence of my leadership and analytical skills can be seen in my responsibilities as a Futures Clearer at Goldman Sachs and maintaining a portfolio at loan clients at Morgan Stanley. At this juncture in my life, still early in my career yet having had a sizeable exposure to various roles and corporations I have an insightful understanding of my own career goals and motivations. I can identify with people and thus possess key communication tools and team work attributes. My educational background in Maths & Economics combined with my work experiences, has been excellent preparation for a career with this company.

Please review the enclosed CV and consider my application for the Trainee Broker position. I would appreciate the opportunity to come to your offices to meet with you and explore possible roles with your company and its environment, and I will send a follow-up email in 2 weeks for your feedback. I look forward to exchanging ideas with you concerning a career at this firm and the positive contributions I would offer as a member of its organization.

Thank you for your consideration,



CV

SKILLS PROFILE

Client Interaction
Good communication and negotiation skills including tact and diplomacy with clients and staff of all different levels, completing courses on Negotiation Skills and Client Relationships. Responsible for a portfolio of clients at Morgan Stanley and being involved in the relationship management of high value clients at Goldman Sachs.

Computer Literacy
Proficient in a number of word processing and spreadsheet packages including Windows applications, Access, MS Office and PowerPoint. Professionally I have experience using Loan IQ, Bloomberg, Reuters, Telerate and the LIFFE and EUREX derivative exchanges.

Team Work
Worked with the global BCP (Business Continuity Plan) committee at Morgan Stanley to develop and implement an approved system to meet company needs. Participated within a variety of sports teams at many levels and have been actively involved in a number of university societies including being elected as the Economics Society Magazine Editor.

EMPLOYMENT HISTORY

Feb 09 – April 09 Travelling

May 08 – Feb 09 Goldman Sachs – Futures Clearer, Specialist (Permanent)
• Ad-hoc projects included making presentations and attending meetings with high value clients with an objective of winning ongoing custom in this field. Also delivered presentations on the risks faced by our team to management and subsequently other groups within the firm.
• Worked on LIFFE and EUREX exchanges, being point-of-contact for EUREX issues internally and externally. This involved locating and initiating the global resources of the firm and orchestrating the response to arising issues within these markets to find accepted resolutions, whilst managing the various client expectations.
• Cleared and matched futures execution trades.
• Liaised directly with client exchanges, other brokers and in-house Sales and Trading staff, offering solutions to problems, anticipating future requirements and guidance and support in the implementation of new procedures, rules and systems.
• Resolved T+1 queries, maintaining statistics and accounting for them before management committee meetings. Added value by streamlining processes and reducing age of outstanding issues.
• Completed courses on Commercial Awareness, Futures Products and Risk Management.

Aug 06 – April 08 Morgan Stanley - Loans Analyst (Permanent)
• Frequent liaising with corporate clients to advise and resolve loan-related maintenance issues to fulfil responsibilities of meeting cut-off times and updating management on the performance of a European Portfolio of Loan Clients. In some cases this involved directly liaising with CFO’s of international companies.
• Included settlement of par, distressed and bi-lateral client loans, Letter of Credit processing, and the reconciliation of cash flows.
• Worked on interest analysis, fee analysis, and calculated participant and trade counter party waiver fees.
• Reviewed Credit Agreements and Transfer Certificates to ascertain fulfilment of legally binding contracts.
• Used Microsoft Excel and Loan IQ systems.
• Answered/delegated ad-hoc queries to the team.
• Responsible for loan groups’ BCP Development & Testing (Business Continuity Plan).
• Trained several new staff and authored comprehensive procedure manuals.
• Completed optional courses on Credit Derivatives, Leveraged Finance, Time Management and Client Relationships.

Dec 03 – Aug 05 Henyep Investment Ltd - Junior Derivatives Dealer (Permanent)
• Successfully completed 6 month training programme.
• Responsible for maintaining portfolio of foreign client accounts, liaised directly with brokers and traders, took opposing trades and made margin calls.
• Exposed to CFD products in commodities, currencies, stocks and indices.
• Oversaw settlement and reconciliation, reporting to chief dealer directly.
• Gained competency on Bloomberg, Reuters, Telerate, Excel and in-house trading programme.

June 02 – Dec 03 Millward Brown Ltd - Researcher (Permanent)
• Undertook research projects on behalf of corporate clients including Mars, Mercedes and Fiat. My role involved interviewing businesses and their consumers then presenting my findings to management and clients.

EDUCATION

Sept 01 – June 03, Queen Mary, University of London
Sept 05 – June 06 BSc. (Hons) Mathematics & Economics
Final year dissertation on the merger of HP and Compaq, assessing its justification, analysing the merger process and an evaluation of the event.

Sept 92- June 2000 xxx Grammar School
4 A-levels: 26 points
9 GCSEs: 6 at grade A

INTERESTS

Sports
I currently train at a muay thai-boxing club and at University I was a member of the Mountaineering Society. At school I was selected as House Sports Prefect and represented my County in rugby and athletics, and captained the school athletics team.

Current Affairs
During University I was involved in founding the ‘Millennium Society’, which arranged regular debates, talks and events concerning political and societal issues. As former Treasurer of the society I was actively involved in its finance and administration, regularly appearing before the Student Union Executive Board.

Travel
In summer 2001, after a year of fund-raising, I spent two months on a trekking expedition to the Himalaya Mountain Ranges. As the teams finance manager I learnt skills in planning, building relationships and achieving targets.



All comments/critisisms much appreciated. I was also considering just getting another back office job with lesser hours to study for CFA's or perhaps the CAIA's as Ive heard that'll be more in demand as time goes on.

Many Thanks! :)
 
One more thing

Oh yes, I was made redundant from my last role. I only worked there 6 months (4 months gardening leave). I am fairly confident that I wasnt made redundant due to the standard of my work.
 
Obvious question:

Why did you leave a role as a "Derivatives Dealer" to go and work in settlements?
 
Thanks for your deeply considered and meaningful help and support Sheikh. Can you also tell me the meaning of life?


I left the dealer role because I was part way through my degree and had to take a break for personal reasons. I left the role to go back to uni and finish my degree. Thanks
 
What is it you actually want to do? Also it seems odd that in your cover letter you point to being in contact with Brokers through your role in settlements bu don't actually refer to your own experience in that realm?
 
I see what you mean about the cover letter.

I'd like to be taken on as a trainee broker by an established broking house (e.g Tullets etc), or as a wealth management analyst or a sales trainee for again an estalished house.

Do you think I dont make enough of the experience I have in my CV and its not targetted enough? And do you think my cover letter is weak, not demonstrating good enough knowledge of the position I am applying for?


Many Thanks
 
Think you are applying for glossy roles with not a lot of experience/qualifications (hence the lack of response). In all honesty I think that what looks like your previous plan of working from back office roles into a junior front office role will have the most effect. Only thing is that these days the job market is so rubbish that a lot of the firms you are applying to have no need to hire at the level you want to enter at...
 
Think you are applying for glossy roles with not a lot of experience/qualifications (hence the lack of response). In all honesty I think that what looks like your previous plan of working from back office roles into a junior front office role will have the most effect. Only thing is that these days the job market is so rubbish that a lot of the firms you are applying to have no need to hire at the level you want to enter at...


Do you think gaining the CFA or CAIA would put me in at least a position to be in with a shout for some of these roles down the road?
 
firstly, your covering letter should focus solely on why you are suitable for the role - what qualities make you stand out, relevant experience, achievements etc.... your letter seems to focus more on complimenting the industry and the specific company you are applying to - "Having dealt with xxx staff I was infused with a respect that was borne from seeing the dedication and high standards of their employees first hand." & in my opinion it verges on being quite cheezy and sucking up to the company. (also "I myself"??? is there need for both I & myself, surely one or the other makes the point that you are talking about yourself.) I think most companies are well aware of the industry they work in & in reality probably don;t hold the work they do in the same high regard as you obviously do. They are however, more concerned with getting the job done & finding the right person to help them do it which is what the objective of your application is. Forget about name dropping, complimenting etc. & pull out the things in your cv that mean you can do the job better than anyone else. Think of it is a salespitch, which as a trainee broker should come easily.
 
you cant do it anyway if ur not employed in the profession currently
i'm pretty sure you can take the exams but can't actually get the full chartered status without x hours work experience. Whether or not employers would look favourably a potential recruit that would save them the cost of the course I don;t know - if they are looking for a trainee then they will have probably already budgeted for the CFA cost & if they're looking for an experienced hire then they want just that - someone with experience of using the CFA in a work environment.
The only advantage I can see in taking it yourself at the moment would be that you would probably have more spare time that when you are in a CFA type role but I don't really think the financial outlay is worth it.
 
Thanks guys. I feel humbled by some of your comments. I thought the names of some of the firms that I have worked for would count for alot, and I think I overly emphasised the importance of why I wanted to work for a particular firm without focussing on myself enough. Anyway Ive taken your commets and re-jigged the cover letter slightly below (the second paragraph though has been completely changed).

Also the reason why I was considering the CFA is because I thought it would help in boosting my academics, and I believe its beneficial in the PWM industry.

As to working in the back office to get to the front, if Im honest Ive found the back office frustrating because of the lack of challenge, and its a lottery to a degree. Even if I clearly show myself to be good enough then it relies on so many other factors, some of which I do not control. Maybe thats a hit I need to take if I want to get to where I want.

I would appreaciate your comments. Thanks.


I would like to express my interest in trainee broker positions. Throughout my job search, previous experience and conversations with finance advisors I have come to respect the professionalism and nature of the broking industry. I am confident that the values and objectives of this career would highly complement my own strengths and enthusiasm. I would like to be considered for this role which requires commitment and refined analytical and communication skills.

In my work experience I have excelled in client interaction. As a Junior CFD Dealer I learnt to manage the expectations of clients with opposing interests in a fast and highly pressured environment whilst maintaining the integrity of the company. At Morgan Stanley I was responsible for a portfolio of clients which required effective independent working for much of the time, building relationships with key decision makers and delivering results. Finally as a Futures Clearer, which brought me into contact with many brokers, I was involved in the retention of high value clients by making presentations that understood the client’s needs. Here I gained valuable skills in preparation and research and working dynamically in an interdependent team.

At this juncture in my life, still early in my career yet having had a sizeable exposure to various roles and corporations I have an insightful understanding of my own career goals and motivations, and to be directly in control of my own success. My educational background in Maths & Economics combined with my work experiences, has been excellent preparation for a career with your company.

Please review the enclosed CV and consider my application for the Trainee Broker position. I would appreciate the opportunity to come to your offices to meet with you and explore possible roles with your company and its environment, and I will send a follow-up email in 2 weeks for your feedback. I look forward to exchanging ideas with you concerning a career at this firm and the positive contributions I would offer as a member of its organization.
 
Thanks for your deeply considered and meaningful help and support Sheikh. Can you also tell me the meaning of life?

NP

you'll find the meaning of life down aisle 11, shelf 6

rummage for it around the back


also, "I'd like to be taken on as a trainee broker by an established broking house (e.g Tullets etc), or as a wealth management analyst or a sales trainee for again an estalished house. ???

Tullets will chew you up and spit you out, and then they'll trample on what's left - bunch of barra boys
 
i'm pretty sure you can take the exams but can't actually get the full chartered status without x hours work experience. Whether or not employers would look favourably a potential recruit that would save them the cost of the course I don;t know - if they are looking for a trainee then they will have probably already budgeted for the CFA cost & if they're looking for an experienced hire then they want just that - someone with experience of using the CFA in a work environment.
The only advantage I can see in taking it yourself at the moment would be that you would probably have more spare time that when you are in a CFA type role but I don't really think the financial outlay is worth it.

ok thats maybe true, but i phoned them and they said you cant do it without a company backing you, they may have made a mistake but it is unlikely, i was also told this by a member here(cant remember who) who would know, so mayb a more experienced member can answer this and also says on bpp's website that you need ur employer to back you...i know you can however do SII exams and IMC etc etc. there is some sort of issue surrounding if you dont use it within a year it is invalid but if your using it to show your keen it shudnt b a problem.
 
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Thanks, will look into the IMC.

Sheik, what do you mean Tullets will chew you up and spit you out? Are they ruthless with employess?
 
Thanks, will look into the IMC.

Sheik, what do you mean Tullets will chew you up and spit you out? Are they ruthless with employess?

I know a few ex-Tullets who were on the forex desk back in the mid 90's and they're still in touch with the furniture there and nothing's changed from what i've heard - it's harsh
 
Dear Candidate,
many thanks for your application, your interest in our company is truly appreciated and duly noted for future reference.
Now why don"t you f::ck off and join the Army like any real man, you soppy yuppie w@nk@r
 
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