Scammed

[flanker]

Hi

I have been fooling around in the markets for the last few years mostly in recognised shares however in 2009 I got involved in a group called Total Apparel (TLAG) based in America. (penny shares). I have been getting a number of telephone calls from different companies offering to sell these shares. I afraid I have probably already been scamed by one Commerce Investment Group. Now another one Fortitude Asset Consultants are offering to sell my shares. I was just hoping out there if someone has had any experience with this company. My head tells me it is another scam but I would so like toget rid of these shares Sorry to be such doom and gloom on my first message

 

[tomorton]

Re: Scamed

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Law/Alerts/overseas.shtml

 

[trendie]

hi flanker,

Unfortunately, you are running the risk of being scammed again.

I can't think of any appropriate websites, (maybe "motleyfool" perhaps?), but in a nutshell, having been scammed once, you may be on the scammers radar.

Knowing you got stung, and are holding worthless shares, the scammers return to offer you a chance to recoup some of your losses by offering to buy them from you "for an upfront fee".

The price they may be willing to offer may be higher than their true worth, (assuming they had any worth to begin with), and these scammers hope you will be blinded by the chance to make a large amount that you will part with a smaller amount.

Needless to say, you wont get the price of the shares, and you will lose any fee they tempt you to part with.

 

[Depth Trade]

Hi

I have been fooling around in the markets for the last few years mostly in recognised shares however in 2009 I got involved in a group called Total Apparel (TLAG) based in America. (penny shares). I have been getting a number of telephone calls from different companies offering to sell these shares. I afraid I have probably already been scamed by one Commerce Investment Group. Now another one Fortitude Asset Consultants are offering to sell my shares. I was just hoping out there if someone has had any experience with this company. My head tells me it is another scam but I would so like toget rid of these shares Sorry to be such doom and gloom on my first message

Your are joking, right?

 

[anley]

Flanker

The people calling you are the same scammers that stole your money in the first place. They know you're desperate to get rid of the shares you bought so are trying to scam you again with promises of buying them back anf again making 'easy money'.

Their logic is simple, you fell for them the first time so there's a high chance you'll do so again. To be honest they're right to go for you because you still don't 100% realise you've actually been scammed - you were and the shares youy bought are worthless.

If you send money to them then it will be stolen from you again it really is as simple as that regardless of what they say to you (they want your money so they're going to tell you what you want to hear).

Also realise that because you fell for the scam the fist time you're known as a 'mark' and your telephone number and details are very valuable and will be sold in scamming circles. Therefore EVERY and ANY call you receive about shares, investments, futures and options etc in the future will be with the goal of trying to rip you off. Please listen and understand this.

Don't take any of this personally as I'm trying to be cruel to be kind, ie make sure you keep hold of your money.

 

[pboyles]

Hi

I have been fooling around in the markets for the last few years mostly in recognised shares however in 2009 I got involved in a group called Total Apparel (TLAG) based in America. (penny shares). I have been getting a number of telephone calls from different companies offering to sell these shares. I afraid I have probably already been scamed by one Commerce Investment Group. Now another one Fortitude Asset Consultants are offering to sell my shares. I was just hoping out there if someone has had any experience with this company. My head tells me it is another scam but I would so like toget rid of these shares Sorry to be such doom and gloom on my first message

Flanker

There is a thread here called 'boiler room scams', there are hundreds of similar stories there. In fact TLAG were even mentioned there. When you bought those shares you lost your money right there and then. You are not going to get it back as those shares are worthless, Anyone who calls you about them is going to ask you for a fee up front to sell them, once you give them this fee they will steal it and disappear. What you are going through now is the standard 'recovery room' part of the fraud, its intended to get as much out of you as possible, they wont stop until you have no money left or until you start reporting them to the authorities.

http://www.moneywise.co.uk/news-views/article/2010/09/30/been-scammed-dont-let-it-happen-again

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/brokerages/14154-boiler-room-scams-211.html

 

[Deckhanddave]

Hi

I have been fooling around in the markets for the last few years mostly in recognised shares however in 2009 I got involved in a group called Total Apparel (TLAG) based in America. (penny shares). I have been getting a number of telephone calls from different companies offering to sell these shares. I afraid I have probably already been scamed by one Commerce Investment Group. Now another one Fortitude Asset Consultants are offering to sell my shares. I was just hoping out there if someone has had any experience with this company. My head tells me it is another scam but I would so like toget rid of these shares Sorry to be such doom and gloom on my first message

Sorry but it appears bad. Have a read of the following links, some may be of interest to you. Keep hold of the last for future reference.

http://boards.fool.co.uk/armstrong-...ing-total-apparel-11612643.aspx?sort=threaded

http://www.fi.se/Folder-EN/Startpag...Warning-list/Warning-against-ArmstrongKnight/

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Law/Alerts/foreign.shtml#a

Best wishes

Dave

 

[Deckhanddave]

A few more

http://www.pinkinvesting.com/companies/total-apparel-group-inc-TLAG.html
http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/banking-law-banking-finance-regulation/14223386-1.html
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1644555&page=4

Hope this helps somehow.

 

[flanker]

A few more

http://www.pinkinvesting.com/companies/total-apparel-group-inc-TLAG.html
http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/banking-law-banking-finance-regulation/14223386-1.html
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1644555&page=4

Hope this helps somehow.

Thanks Dave it confirms what I thought

 

[amit1986]

Thanks Dave it confirms what I thought

In order to avoid being scammed again, I suggest two things:

1) Don't, for the life of you, ever touch penny stocks.

2) If someone calls you to buy shares of a company, don't waste your precious breathe on them - just hang up. No one, who is sitting on a goldmine, will be calling random people to give them cheap access to it.

 

[scamcatcher]

Re: Scamed

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Law/Alerts/overseas.shtml

You have been scammed by Jay Lance Gotlieb.
The infamous boiler room king.
His email is [email protected]

 

[flanker]

anybody heard of a firm called American Taxation Inc based in New York have I been contacted by scammers again

 

[pboyles]

anybody heard of a firm called American Taxation Inc based in New York have I been contacted by scammers again

You have been contacted by spammers again and this will probably continue. Remember every call you get about shares or investments is a scam.

 

[googleman]

Also try http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/CityPolice/Departments/ECD/Fraud/boilerroom.htm. This is the UK Police share scam info site....it says it all about boiler and recovery room scams.

I think we should start an 'Ive been scammed' league table.....I lost £1200. Any advances? PLEASE GOD!!! Dont let me be the biggest loser of the year !

 

[flanker]

Googleman, unfortunately I can beat that but lets not go into it, I ,m still feeling raw. Has anybody ouy there heard of a company Vine Capital. As the name suggests they deal in the sale of Good wine, you invest and they sell in on, the dealer takes his 10% cut from any profits. Thinking about re-investing just wondering if anybody had had any dealings with them.

 

[coopster]

Googleman, unfortunately I can beat that but lets not go into it, I ,m still feeling raw. Has anybody ouy there heard of a company Vine Capital.

Are you determined to give your money away? What about actually learning to invest and relying on your own abilities to earn/lose your money instead of just donating it to a con man who will only do the latter.

Maybe Vine Capital are legit, i don't know.

 

[RedRenegade]

Reject the phone calls as soon as you can... they all sound like scammers

 

[investigator25]

Hi

I have been fooling around in the markets for the last few years mostly in recognised shares however in 2009 I got involved in a group called Total Apparel (TLAG) based in America. (penny shares). I have been getting a number of telephone calls from different companies offering to sell these shares. I afraid I have probably already been scamed by one Commerce Investment Group. Now another one Fortitude Asset Consultants are offering to sell my shares. I was just hoping out there if someone has had any experience with this company. My head tells me it is another scam but I would so like toget rid of these shares Sorry to be such doom and gloom on my first message

I'm sorry to confirm that you we're scammed.
Commerce & Fortitude are one in the same.
It is ran by boiler room king Jay Lance Gotlieb A/K/A/ Johnny Bahamas.
Gotlieb & his cronies have been scamming for over 20 years.
He has been getting protection from high ranking police officials in the Bahamas.
There are grand jury hearings going on presently, with Gotlieb as the target.
I believe he will be indited & extradited to the States late summer.
He has also been under survelance by the DEA, who are also testifying.
Watch for an arrest & then join in with all of the other victims in a class action suit.

 

[flanker]

many thanks for that I'll wait and see what happens don't think I will every get any money back.

I'm sorry to confirm that you we're scammed.
Commerce & Fortitude are one in the same.
It is ran by boiler room king Jay Lance Gotlieb A/K/A/ Johnny Bahamas.
Gotlieb & his cronies have been scamming for over 20 years.
He has been getting protection from high ranking police officials in the Bahamas.
There are grand jury hearings going on presently, with Gotlieb as the target.
I believe he will be indited & extradited to the States late summer.
He has also been under survelance by the DEA, who are also testifying.
Watch for an arrest & then join in with all of the other victims in a class action suit.