Amplify Trading-my journey

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so i'm due to start my remote trading course with Amplify Trading, im not going to update this every day more like every week as i'm going to be to busy getting to grips with everything. I've decided to do this so that i can give an insight to everyone new that is looking to learn how to trade so that they can see for themselves from an actual student rather than hearing ridiculous accusations that seems to get thrown around all the time.

i cant wait to get started, it's 4 long months but with any luck hopefully i'll get offered a seat on there trading floor in canary wharf at the end of it.
 
Please Refrain From Getting Into A Debate About Why's And No's Of Paying For Training, This Is My Journal Of My Journey To Become A Futures Trader With Amplify Trading, If You Want To Debate Go And Join The General Chat!!!!!
 
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Please Refrain From Getting Into A Debate About Why's And No's Of Paying For Training, This Is My Journal Of My Journey To Become A Futures Trader With Amplify Trading, If You Want To Debate Go And Join The General Chat!!!!!

Traderboi29, I've just spent the last 20-mins reading both of your threads and the lead into this week. Interesting, I can see both sides.

Keep us updated and good luck.
 
I think you're been watching too much crappy TV where all the lemmings refer to everything as a 'journey'.

A 'journey' is something that you do for example in a car, like drive from Oxford to Cambridge.
 
I think you're been watching too much crappy TV where all the lemmings refer to everything as a 'journey'.

A 'journey' is something that you do for example in a car, like drive from Oxford to Cambridge.

...........so what would you call it? my path to trading? my experience of trading........anyway, if you have nothing better to say, don't.
 
So for my weekly update, to be honest i can't be bothered as i am so tired after a very intensive week, but i will, but this is just going to be more of a general view over the course of the week rather done what i done on a day to day basis, dont want to bore people to death.

Any....it's been a very, very, very good week. it is a steep learning curve but at the end of each day it leaves you wanting more and excited about the next day. so what am i trading? well i am currently specialising in the futures market specifically indices namely the S&P Emini 500. My first choice was the bund but i rather like the S&P as that means i get to sleep in the mornings and not get up till 12pm.GREAT!Anyway it was a good week to learn as the NFP, G20 Summit , PMI all gave it a good opportunity to see first hand how it impacts the stock markets and how it drives/pushes down the stock prices. So the first 2 days we spent getting used to the CQG Trader platform, learning the basics i.e. buy/sell, limit orders, stoploss etc. Over the course of the week we were also taught the technical analysis tools and the fundamentals which can impact market prices. Technicals taught so far include Fibs, RSI, Volume, MA and candlesticks.trying to digest everything isn't easy but I'm loving it. My P'n'L so far has been ok considering it's only been a week...actually a loss on Wednesday, profit on Thursday and would have been profit today had not CQG Sim choked up!

Funny how prop houses ask for degrees and maths bods, i don't have a degree and am the worst at maths but yet i still managed to understand the technicals/fundamentals and made profit, so i ask all you prop houses, why do you ask for a degree or maths background when none of this comes into play when you trade? the only time i used any maths was when i was calculating my profit, but even that was done by CQG for me. One market maker who I applied for a trainee role got me to do a test on matchstick puzzles.........i mean come on, how the hell does this make anyone a good trader?everytime you put a trade on you do a quick mathstick puzzle?and some of the questions were even more ridiculous i.e. if harry came first and peter came second, what colour is there shirt if it wasn't red or blue, i mean WTF?being able to solve puzzles nor having a maths background or a degree is no guarantee that they will make a good trader,if you read New Market Wizards there are many examples of traders from normal backgrounds i.e. no degree, crap at maths but yet still managed to become awesome traders.....one example had this top trader Victor Sperandeo take on 38 trainees, 2 of the candidates couldn't have been any more different from each other, one was a high school drop out who didn't even know his alphabet(bit like me!!!) and the other was classified as a genius, he had an IQ of 188 and was on a show called Jeopardy where he answered every question correct, now in five years only 5 of those trainees made any money, who do you think out of the 2 i just mentioned was one of them? the genius with an IQ of 188 right? WRONG, mr.high school drop out, yes, mr. high school drop out who has no degree, was crap at maths and didn't know his goddam alphabet was one of the five out of 38 trainees who made money, a very large amount too may i add.(NEW MARKET WIZARDS BY JACK D. SCHWAGER, PAGE 265-VICTOR SPERANDEO)

so for all you prop houses out there that i applied to and got rejected on the grounds of not having a degree or being good at maths, i say this........I DON'T HAVE A DEGREE NOR AM I FROM A MATHS BACKGROUND BUT WHAT I DO HAVE IS MOTIVATION AND DETERMINATION, WITH THESE 2 ATTRIBUTES I WILL PROVE TO YOU THAT YOU DO NOT NEED A DEGREE, NOR BE GOOD AT MATHS TO BECOME A SUCCESSFUL TRADER.YOU NEED TO ALL STOP TRYING TO MAKE YOUR COMPANIES SEEM LIKE AN ELITE ESTABLISHMENT WITH YOUR ACADEMIC CRITERIA WHEN WE ALL KNOW ANY TOM, DICK AND HARRY WITH THE RIGHT TRAINING CAN BECOME A SUCCESSFUL TRADER.I mean i heard of a guy who was an estate agent with an architects degree who is now a top trader for a well known prop house in bromley/kent.(sorry guys about the rant, but it is just so annoying when firms ask for these when it has no use what so ever in trading and after being on this training program for the past week this has only reconfirm my beliefs)

so how did it all go? well to be honest i am so glad i am on the program, i have learnt so much in the space of a week, DMA, Fibs, MA's.........i never knew none of this, heard of it but didn't know how it worked.......and that was only a week, still have 4 months to go, yes you can learn or teach yourself this in a book, but what your getting here is direct mentorship and guidance from experienced traders who are also trading at the same time as well as teaching so of course that beats teaching yourself any time of the day ....and i can't wait to start back again on monday.

The parting words for the weekend of one of my colleagues on the same course today- Will, Piers, it has been an excellent week!-what more can i say? more next week................

Keyskill I've learnt this week? Trading Discipline......very very important.

forgot to mention, you are also given the materials and taught the subjects in relation to the SII Derivatives certificate which i am also taking
 
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good stuff tb, look forward to your update next week

i am currently working. amplify claim you can do this part time 17:30-21:00 with the S&P. what do you think about this?
 
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good stuff tb, look forward to your update next week

i am currently working. amplify claim you can do this part time 17:30-21:00 with the S&P. what do you think about this?

Hey Random,

yes you can, from what i have seem there is alot of volatility from the time period, reason being cos it is in the afternoon for the americans and generally around about that time is when prices fluctuate up and down, i made a trade today around 6ish and was in profit but then CQG Sim went down so couldn't take profit, so yeah it is a good time to get in on some trades if you are thinking about doing it part time. And to be honest, i think trading the S&P is such a great market to learn your trade. Lots of economic impacts with alot of liquidity. Much better than being an outright equities trader-boring!!.....but personally though, if you can i would try to take out 4 months and do it fulltime, that way you can learn everything all in one go and if you prove to be a successful trader then you can wave your old job goodbye.

TB29
 
how much mentor contact time do you get a day and when is it?

thanks tb

you basically connect via a virtual trading room. you log on at 1pm and stay on till 9pm when the american cash markets close, throughout that time the head trader is also there with you so you can ask him a question anytime you want....to be honest i didn't think remote teaching would work but it has gone like a dream. highly recommended. oh and it is everyday so M-F 1pm-9pm.........hence it is very intensive, basically your trading alongside the trader, but to be honest time flies so quick cos it is just so interesting, for me anyway, i really can't rate this any higher and i know my fellow trainee traders on the program with me would say the same. my advice, go for it.........it is much cheaper than futex as they charge £3k for a similar program but it's all theory and you only get 1 months simulator, which then if you do well you move on to the 2nd module which you then have to pay £5k. And to be honest once these guys build up there reputation i think there prices will go up, but hey thats my opinion.

basically it is in there interest to help you succeed cos if you do well they do well .But bare in mind that not everyone will succeed, just depends on how fast you pick something up, in my opinion if you don't know something ask, and keep asking till you get it right. Even if you don't get offered a seat at the end of the four months you can still walk away with 4 months pro training. something which will look good on your CV.

TB29
 
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pivots

Hi TB

If you are trading e mini s/p then make sure you harness the power of daily and weekly pivots. Also pay attention to the midpoints between pivots and s1/ r1 etc. Price will always react to these levels.
They should come as standard with CQG. Have a look at rathcool exiles thread on this as well.

Good luck
Combo.
 
Hi TB

If you are trading e mini s/p then make sure you harness the power of daily and weekly pivots. Also pay attention to the midpoints between pivots and s1/ r1 etc. Price will always react to these levels.
They should come as standard with CQG. Have a look at rathcool exiles thread on this as well.

Good luck
Combo.

Hey Combo,

thanks for the heads up but we havent touched on Pivots yet but when i do i'll defo bear that in mind.

TB29
 
Hi ther TB29,

What sort of software setup do they have? Is it just CQG and teamspeak? Most prop firms that trades futures uses X-trader. Good luck.
 
Hi ther TB29,

What sort of software setup do they have? Is it just CQG and teamspeak? Most prop firms that trades futures uses X-trader. Good luck.



hEY Lenk

we use CQG and prorealtime for charts..........

thanks mate

TB29
 
hey tb,

i know its not time for your weekly update yet but just wondering how you're doing. (i am following with euthusiam!)

going back a bit,
1) how was the theory delivered? i presumed you read most of it and then they taught you the basics through a virtual environment?
2) how many times a day and for what duration does the trader actually speak and give mini talks?

all the best buddy, happy easter
 
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hey tb,

i know its not time for your weekly update yet but just wondering how you're doing. (i am following with euthusiam!)

going back a bit,
1) how was the theory delivered? i presumed you read most of it and then they taught you the basics through a virtual environment?
2) how many times a day and for what duration does the trader actually speak and give mini talks?

all the best buddy, happy easter


will be updating 2morow matey, check back then!
 
The reason they ask for people with maths degrees is simple.

They have lots of people wanting to work for them

-> Want to narrow down

-> far greater percentage of people with maths degrees are smarter then the average person doing most other things

-> saves a lot of time.

They're not after people good at maths, just clever people, mathematicians are clever (in the main).

Don't sweat it, you'll be fine, seem to be having fun. Good luck with it.
 
I have read your posts with interest , and also the other threads concerning Amplify.

I was wondering how many senior traders are trading under this umbrella? As I know being around good traders can really help when starting out in this business, as opposed to just being around the new intake.
 
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