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They also want to buy my ATS stock. Am enquiring through Philadelphia Chamber of commerce.Will let you know if I hear anything
Take care - welcome additional feedback...
I strongly recommend that you discuss this with the following contacts, as there is some doubt as to whether Marlton Associates are legitimate (i.e. who they say they are, despite their apparent company registration):-
a) "U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission" <[email protected]>
b) your normal contact in Oxbridge International (assuming they sold you the stock, being the only registered authority to sell such stock outside of the US)
I concluded that it was not a safe transaction, even though the price offered by Marlton was good, and I thus continue to hold my ATS stock.
For instance, the guy in the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission confirmed that it only costs a few dollars to raise the Reg. S restriction - not the larger amounts claimed by Marlton.
You might also care to contact ATS Specialists themselves, as they have not authorised or are supportive of these approaches by Marlton - and the ATS CEO personally confirmed to me that there is no way that any third party could gain a majority shareholding (ahead of the directors and other insiders). Another ATS director told me the company was extremely busy, which I took to be positive whilst awaiting further news via their web site.
Marlton Associates, who seem to have got hold of the list of authorised ATS stock holders, first approached me at the beginning of February - stating that they would obtain the majority share holding sought for their "European client" within days; then a couple of weeks later in "just a week or two" - but it seems that two months later they are still trying to pick up stock.
It seems to me that the ATS Specialists stock is becoming more valuable, and certain organisations are trying to buy them "on the cheap" at present; assuming this isn't just a scam to take up-front payments from us. N.B. I was asked to place a large fee with Marlton's ESCROW agent against the chance I might not proceed, to cover their Reg. S restriction removal costs and their sale contract costs - which both in my mind should be pretty standard and much lower cost than Marlton indicated.
Hope this helps... please keep me informed.
Tony Griffith said:
I strongly recommend that you discuss this with the following contacts, as there is some doubt as to whether Marlton Associates are legitimate (i.e. who they say they are, despite their apparent company registration):-
a) "U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission" <[email protected]>
b) your normal contact in Oxbridge International (assuming they sold you the stock, being the only registered authority to sell such stock outside of the US)
I concluded that it was not a safe transaction, even though the price offered by Marlton was good, and I thus continue to hold my ATS stock.
For instance, the guy in the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission confirmed that it only costs a few dollars to raise the Reg. S restriction - not the larger amounts claimed by Marlton.
You might also care to contact ATS Specialists themselves, as they have not authorised or are supportive of these approaches by Marlton - and the ATS CEO personally confirmed to me that there is no way that any third party could gain a majority shareholding (ahead of the directors and other insiders). Another ATS director told me the company was extremely busy, which I took to be positive whilst awaiting further news via their web site.
Marlton Associates, who seem to have got hold of the list of authorised ATS stock holders, first approached me at the beginning of February - stating that they would obtain the majority share holding sought for their "European client" within days; then a couple of weeks later in "just a week or two" - but it seems that two months later they are still trying to pick up stock.
It seems to me that the ATS Specialists stock is becoming more valuable, and certain organisations are trying to buy them "on the cheap" at present; assuming this isn't just a scam to take up-front payments from us. N.B. I was asked to place a large fee with Marlton's ESCROW agent against the chance I might not proceed, to cover their Reg. S restriction removal costs and their sale contract costs - which both in my mind should be pretty standard and much lower cost than Marlton indicated.
Hope this helps... please keep me informed.
Gosh! someone at last with ats shares!!
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:clap:Helllo:clap: I have found someone else at last with ATS Specialists shares. I read your information with relief as we have invested a great deal of money in ATS via Oxbridge. Please tell me how did you get to speak to these men at ATS and how long ago was it. I did a few years ago, but sadly now all my emails are returned ...in-box too full ;-) and telephoning is a joke, as it goes on to an answering system that drives me mad. My husband's life has been hell as I was made to understand that this is all a sham a boiler room scam. Please can you kindly put my mind at ease do you think we have all been ripped off, or are we all going to be well off one day . Lee you don't have to answer as I know what your views are:
I hope to hear from you please x:innocent:
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:clap:Helllo:clap: I have found someone else at last with ATS Specialists shares. I read your information with relief as we have invested a great deal of money in ATS via Oxbridge. Please tell me how did you get to speak to these men at ATS and how long ago was it. I did a few years ago, but sadly now all my emails are returned ...in-box too full ;-) and telephoning is a joke, as it goes on to an answering system that drives me mad. My husband's life has been hell as I was made to understand that this is all a sham a boiler room scam. Please can you kindly put my mind at ease do you think we have all been ripped off, or are we all going to be well off one day . Lee you don't have to answer as I know what your views are:
I hope to hear from you please x:innocent:
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Come on guys, you must know you're being set up for the double con?
You all bought shares in a non existant company from an unregulated firm, Oxbridge, which the FSA has a public warnning notice about them. Now you're being asked to stump up more upfront cash to sell them to another unregulated boiler room Marlton Associates.
My advice is to ring the FSA and get there opinion. Come on, wake up!!
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Law/pdf/oxbridge_22nov05.pdf
You all bought shares in a non existant company from an unregulated firm, Oxbridge, which the FSA has a public warnning notice about them. Now you're being asked to stump up more upfront cash to sell them to another unregulated boiler room Marlton Associates.
My advice is to ring the FSA and get there opinion. Come on, wake up!!
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Law/pdf/oxbridge_22nov05.pdf
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Re atsspecialists thank you
Hello What a lovely gentleman, thank you for the information. I wonder where in Israel they have gone to and why no new address or contact numbers. I have spoken to Mr Daniel Greenberg in 2006 and he spoke pretty good English not like the note you have forwarded. Ah! never mind. How are you going to speak again?? Was it an e.mail that Daniel Greenberg sent you? I know you are going to think I'm mad but I bought a book that said if you have something worrying you talk to your Angels and I did. I found your thread and here I have my answer. Shame I didn't do this before we invested our money.
I hope too we at least get our money back with a little interest. My husband is the only one that is not loosing sleep over this.
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Guys as PualoP says you'e all beiing setup for the good old double con.
ATS shares are WORTHLESS. The scammers that sold you them in the first place knew this and they now know that you're all desperate to get some or all of your money back.
So what do they do, simple, they try and entice you with offers of great profits, just as they did when they initially sold you the shares. The people calling you now are THE SAME scammers that sold you the shares in the first place, or people connected to them anyway.
This is what will happen if you do business with them, it's very very simple so please pay attention.
You'll be asked for a sum of money which will be needed to pay for a 'bond' or a 'release fee', basically anything that sounds semi plausible. Then what will happen is that you'll pay the money, then that money will AGAIN BE STOLEN from you and the scammers will disappear again, just as they did when they sold you the shares in the first place.
WAKE UP and please learn from your mistakes. Strangers that call you, who are no doubt very charming and 'on your side' are low life thieves that know you are desperate to get back your losses so play to the inherent greed that's within all of us.
Pay money and it will be stolen, if you do then sorry but you only have yourselves to blame.
PS. Have you checked out when these 'companies' websites were first registered, bet they were within the last year - check them out here Whois lookup and Domain name search
Good luck, but again if you pay money to them, nobody here is going to have any sympathy for you when it's stolen again............
ATS shares are WORTHLESS. The scammers that sold you them in the first place knew this and they now know that you're all desperate to get some or all of your money back.
So what do they do, simple, they try and entice you with offers of great profits, just as they did when they initially sold you the shares. The people calling you now are THE SAME scammers that sold you the shares in the first place, or people connected to them anyway.
This is what will happen if you do business with them, it's very very simple so please pay attention.
You'll be asked for a sum of money which will be needed to pay for a 'bond' or a 'release fee', basically anything that sounds semi plausible. Then what will happen is that you'll pay the money, then that money will AGAIN BE STOLEN from you and the scammers will disappear again, just as they did when they sold you the shares in the first place.
WAKE UP and please learn from your mistakes. Strangers that call you, who are no doubt very charming and 'on your side' are low life thieves that know you are desperate to get back your losses so play to the inherent greed that's within all of us.
Pay money and it will be stolen, if you do then sorry but you only have yourselves to blame.
PS. Have you checked out when these 'companies' websites were first registered, bet they were within the last year - check them out here Whois lookup and Domain name search
Good luck, but again if you pay money to them, nobody here is going to have any sympathy for you when it's stolen again............
hello! ATS has had their Website for many years but I guess that means nothing either. Thank you for your good sound advice.. scorpio11
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Have just been reading the latest comments on Marlton and Scorpio11's mention of the escrow account. I wonder where that went?!
Nope, it probably doesn't. I, or anyone who knows a touch about computers could have a professional website developed in less than 24 hours. It could say anything, I'm going to do this, I'm going to make billions, I'm about to develop a cure for aids etc.
The proof of a companies worth is usually in it's revenues and profits especially if it has been around for a few years. Always exceptions to the rule but not many.
The proof of a companies worth is usually in it's revenues and profits especially if it has been around for a few years. Always exceptions to the rule but not many.
kQUOTE=Tony Griffith;530526]Have just been reading the latest comments on Marlton and Scorpio11's mention of the escrow account. I wonder where that went?![/QUOTE]
hello tony I'm not very computer literate and I think I may have replied to a thread in the wrong place, as I think I am doing right now. I'm the lady that was enquiry about ATS Specialists. I don't know anything about Marlton and their Escrow account. They wont be extracting any money out of me ever again...scorpio11:clap:
PS just checked it is from jrawlin1 good luck take care x
hello tony I'm not very computer literate and I think I may have replied to a thread in the wrong place, as I think I am doing right now. I'm the lady that was enquiry about ATS Specialists. I don't know anything about Marlton and their Escrow account. They wont be extracting any money out of me ever again...scorpio11:clap:
PS just checked it is from jrawlin1 good luck take care x
Scorps, you don't really need to know anything about marlton and their escrow account, or any escrow account really apart from they're ALL scams.
Look after yourself and always check onthis board if you're EVER unsure about ANYTHING, however stupid you think the question is because THERE ARE NO STUPID QUESTIONS when money is involved.
We'd all much rather someone makes a fool of themselves (or thinks they are) and risk no money rather than be unsure and then find out it's too late.
We're ALL on everyone's side, even if sometime I and other posters seem a little hard - just being cruel to be kind
PS. If you get called by any company again in relation to shares or escrows etc, just get the company name AND website and then report it here. Threads on this board are very quick to be picked up by Google (usually within 1-2 days) so the more we write about the scammers the more we can try and help people, ie STOP them investing because hopefully they'll do a bit of googling and find us all talking about said boiler rooms.
Re Ats
Hi Anley thank you for your kind words and I do know you all mean well. I wish I had heard of T2W before my husband was taken in by Andrew Richardson of Oxbridge the infamous.... All I really want to know is where ATS has moved to? No longer in fab Florida gone back to Israel . Does anyone know their new address :?: Any info will be great. Scorpio
Scorps, you don't really need to know anything about marlton and their escrow account, or any escrow account really apart from they're ALL scams.
Look after yourself and always check onthis board if you're EVER unsure about ANYTHING, however stupid you think the question is because THERE ARE NO STUPID QUESTIONS when money is involved.
We'd all much rather someone makes a fool of themselves (or thinks they are) and risk no money rather than be unsure and then find out it's too late.
We're ALL on everyone's side, even if sometime I and other posters seem a little hard - just being cruel to be kind
PS. If you get called by any company again in relation to shares or escrows etc, just get the company name AND website and then report it here. Threads on this board are very quick to be picked up by Google (usually within 1-2 days) so the more we write about the scammers the more we can try and help people, ie STOP them investing because hopefully they'll do a bit of googling and find us all talking about said boiler rooms.
Hi Anley thank you for your kind words and I do know you all mean well. I wish I had heard of T2W before my husband was taken in by Andrew Richardson of Oxbridge the infamous.... All I really want to know is where ATS has moved to? No longer in fab Florida gone back to Israel . Does anyone know their new address :?: Any info will be great. Scorpio
I did some digging on the Florida Chamber of Commerce and found:
www.sunbiz.org - Department of State
ATS Specialists was dissolved in 2006. Your shares are unfortunately worthless. I hope this brings some closure to your plight.
www.sunbiz.org - Department of State
ATS Specialists was dissolved in 2006. Your shares are unfortunately worthless. I hope this brings some closure to your plight.
I did some digging on the Florida Chamber of Commerce and found:
www.sunbiz.org - Department of State
ATS Specialists was dissolved in 2006. Your shares are unfortunately worthless. I hope this brings some closure to your plight.[/QUOTE
Hello thank you so much for so kindly taking the trouble for checking this out. It's comforting to know that there are people like you in this world. Sadly there are also the other kind that have so heartlessly ripped us off. I can just see them laughing with every deal they clinched. How wicked is that. Well of course it is a lesson learnt. It was only £40,000 Ouch!! As Lee Shepherd advised me to do.... I will now move on. God bless Scorpio11
hi jrawlin1..... I just checked Atsspecialists.inc Website and it appears the Domain is now up for sale by godaddy. It became available on the 22/11/08 You were right He Daniel Greenberg was very busy on a big project, it was packing his bags. So I guess this is the final nail in the coffin, they have done a runner. So all Ats share holders (I am one) should get together to see what can be done. Surely no one should be able to do this sought of scam an retire somewhere with our money and to live happily ever after. Please get in touch. Best Regards Scorpio11